TerryRed
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I am posting this here on behalf of kenswift who is creating / running this new event. Please every READ everything detailed in this post and on the link.
From kenswift:
"Hi everyone,
Want to make sure everyone knows that voting is going on now for the First Annual Virtual Pinball Awards. It’s starting off small but hopefully will grow every year and I envision it as being a way to recognize the amazing content creators who dedicate so much of their personal time to this fantastic hobby.
Two rounds of voting, the Pre-Nomination which is going on now which will determine the final Nominees, then final voting, then a big awards show live on Mystery Pinball Theater 3000 on twitch in February.
Winners will get trophy’s, and be presented them by some of the biggest names in Vpinball and real pinball.
This will be an amazing event by we need everyone’s support to vote! Details and links below:
PRELIMINARY VOTING IS NOW OPEN! PLEASE VOTE TO HELP SUPPORT THESE AMAZING CONTENT CREATORS!
CLICK THIS LINK TO VOTE:"
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1zf...KzfuhYghk2-ficTA/viewform?edit_requested=true
==========================================
From TerryRed:
So I'd like to clarify some things, as some people may misunderstand how this is all working out.
- the tables and contributors listed in the categories on the voting page are NOT the only options!
- you can pick any table (released in 2020 only!) or contributor / author you want in all categories! That's what the Other selection is for! Write in what you want!
- this a preliminary vote for nominations. This means you are voting to add in the table / person you want!
- the categories are for tables released in 2020 only. This means older tables that have not been significantly updated for many years are not included (to keep it an annual awards show)
The options shown "so far" are NOT based from one person's selection or opinion! They are only there as a "start". This idea was passed around to various other Facebook and Discord groups to gauge interest and for some categories. So the "initial" options shown are based on those for votes which are mainly cabinet based players.
"Your" votes in the preliminary will determine who gets nominated. Then everyone will vote for who wins after that!
Only vote for the categories you care about and want to vote for! If you have no interest in VPX... then don't vote for those categories, etc.
Keep in mind guys this is being run from groups that are mostly vpx and cabinet based, so there is bound to be more categories and support for that... but there are also many people that like FP and VPX as well. So Future Pinball was added as a Category for Best Table / Mod and is included in Table of the Year as well. Let's be thankful for that!
SPREAD THE WORD!
So if you want your favorite Future Pinball author / contributor / table to be considered for a nomination... add your votes and get others to add theirs!
BE RESPECTFUL!
PLEASE, be respectful with this guys. I know we all want everyone to be represented for their selfless works given to the community... but you can't make "everyone" happy. If you don't see someone's name or table shown or voted for yet (or in the end) that you wanted to see, please don't take it personally. The entire vp community will vote on this... not just this site. The intent is to bring everyone together to help bring recognition to the amazing work done by so many others.
If you have any suggestions, pass them on to @Kenswift or here in this post.
@JonPurpleHaze @shiva @GeorgeH @Gimli @wild @ravarcade @polygame @NitroNimbus @ULTIMATE Pro Pinball @popotte @francisco666_b @Ike Savage
Wasn't sure where to post this... but since this was meant to bring attention for this to the FP community, I figured this was the best place to post it.
==========================================================
Update from Kenswift":
"
I started in Virtual Pinball about a year ago. It was right around the time Scotty released Harry Potter. I had already seen his other work, as well as some of the other amazing tables from some of the other amazing creators. I couldn’t believe that this hobby was driven solely by the sacrifices of the content creators and they get zero compensation. When I saw Harry Potter I had to send this guy Scotty Wic a nice bottle of whisky to say thank you.
Shortly after, I had come across John Memeo. John took his time to help me, as he does so many other newbies, to get my cabinet working and put me on a path to really get the most out of this new hobby. He spent hours helping answer my stupid questions and fix my stupid mistakes. I would have given up on the hobby if it wasn’t for him and I wanted to pay him back somehow.
I was familiar with After Effects and video editing and compositing and I came up with an idea to do a PuPPack. I wanted to partner with John and let him upload it as the author, as a way of paying him back. John had never done a PuPPack, but I talked him into it, and that was probably 30 puppacks ago for him. We went on to do Avengers and The Getaway II together….I wanted to pay him back and I got to.
A few months ago, I was reading about the TWIPYs. A recognition award for real pinball. I thought, wow, Virtual Pin needs an awards program like that to recognize these creators who work so hard and get so little thanks. I asked a bunch of content creators if they would be interested in participating, the ones I knew and had developed a relationship like Scotty, Terry, and Nailbuster. I also asked some Real Pin folks, because I thought it would be cool to unify the hobby a bit, Zach Meny, Cary Hardy, and Jack Danger. All of who were great and said yes. I got MPT3K to agree to host the event on twitch and he’s a big advocate for both real pinball and virtual. I asked JP Salas and he recommended adding the major Vpin Website owners as presenters, and I thought that was a great idea. Most agreed to present as well.
I wanted it to be big but I was doing it primarily on my own and with my own money, and I knew I wanted to do it right so I allocated a budget of $1000 and came up with 10 Categories. I thought after year one we can expand to more categories and maybe people would want to contribute. I created a google form with just a few of what I felt were the most common names I heard come up as the initial Pre-Nominees, so people would understand the format I wanted but I stressed people to write in votes in both the video and the instructions because I knew I didn’t know everyone who contributes but the community does. My plan was to add in real-time as the community wrote in votes. I didn’t add any of my creations to the initial rollout either.
Rolling out the voting now feels like I lit a fuse to a massive pile of dynamite. I thought if someone didn’t agree they would give some constructive criticism and if I had to tweak I was totally open to it. I didn’t expect the response I got. The feedback was pretty cold and harsh. If it was the community beating it up, it wouldn’t have bothered me as much but it was the creators. The ones I wanted this awards to be for.
In retrospect, if the people I wanted to recognize, think this is a bad idea, it’s not something I want to do. I think I could redo the voting but it wouldn’t matter, people would always have an issue. I can’t recognize everyone as much as I would love to but I do appreciate everything this community does. So I’m pulling the plug and wish this community the best. I took a shot because it’s who I am. Thanks Terry an anyone else who agreed with the vision as well as those who didn’t agree but understood what I was trying to do and were constructive with their feedback. Voting is turned off."
TerryRed:
Just so you guys know... none of you guys from Pinball Nirvanna gave any indication of having issues with this. It had nothing to do with you guys.
From kenswift:
"Hi everyone,
Want to make sure everyone knows that voting is going on now for the First Annual Virtual Pinball Awards. It’s starting off small but hopefully will grow every year and I envision it as being a way to recognize the amazing content creators who dedicate so much of their personal time to this fantastic hobby.
Two rounds of voting, the Pre-Nomination which is going on now which will determine the final Nominees, then final voting, then a big awards show live on Mystery Pinball Theater 3000 on twitch in February.
Winners will get trophy’s, and be presented them by some of the biggest names in Vpinball and real pinball.
This will be an amazing event by we need everyone’s support to vote! Details and links below:
PRELIMINARY VOTING IS NOW OPEN! PLEASE VOTE TO HELP SUPPORT THESE AMAZING CONTENT CREATORS!
CLICK THIS LINK TO VOTE:"
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1zf...KzfuhYghk2-ficTA/viewform?edit_requested=true
==========================================
From TerryRed:
So I'd like to clarify some things, as some people may misunderstand how this is all working out.
- the tables and contributors listed in the categories on the voting page are NOT the only options!
- you can pick any table (released in 2020 only!) or contributor / author you want in all categories! That's what the Other selection is for! Write in what you want!
- this a preliminary vote for nominations. This means you are voting to add in the table / person you want!
- the categories are for tables released in 2020 only. This means older tables that have not been significantly updated for many years are not included (to keep it an annual awards show)
The options shown "so far" are NOT based from one person's selection or opinion! They are only there as a "start". This idea was passed around to various other Facebook and Discord groups to gauge interest and for some categories. So the "initial" options shown are based on those for votes which are mainly cabinet based players.
"Your" votes in the preliminary will determine who gets nominated. Then everyone will vote for who wins after that!
Only vote for the categories you care about and want to vote for! If you have no interest in VPX... then don't vote for those categories, etc.
Keep in mind guys this is being run from groups that are mostly vpx and cabinet based, so there is bound to be more categories and support for that... but there are also many people that like FP and VPX as well. So Future Pinball was added as a Category for Best Table / Mod and is included in Table of the Year as well. Let's be thankful for that!
SPREAD THE WORD!
So if you want your favorite Future Pinball author / contributor / table to be considered for a nomination... add your votes and get others to add theirs!
BE RESPECTFUL!
PLEASE, be respectful with this guys. I know we all want everyone to be represented for their selfless works given to the community... but you can't make "everyone" happy. If you don't see someone's name or table shown or voted for yet (or in the end) that you wanted to see, please don't take it personally. The entire vp community will vote on this... not just this site. The intent is to bring everyone together to help bring recognition to the amazing work done by so many others.
If you have any suggestions, pass them on to @Kenswift or here in this post.
@JonPurpleHaze @shiva @GeorgeH @Gimli @wild @ravarcade @polygame @NitroNimbus @ULTIMATE Pro Pinball @popotte @francisco666_b @Ike Savage
Wasn't sure where to post this... but since this was meant to bring attention for this to the FP community, I figured this was the best place to post it.
==========================================================
Update from Kenswift":
"
I started in Virtual Pinball about a year ago. It was right around the time Scotty released Harry Potter. I had already seen his other work, as well as some of the other amazing tables from some of the other amazing creators. I couldn’t believe that this hobby was driven solely by the sacrifices of the content creators and they get zero compensation. When I saw Harry Potter I had to send this guy Scotty Wic a nice bottle of whisky to say thank you.
Shortly after, I had come across John Memeo. John took his time to help me, as he does so many other newbies, to get my cabinet working and put me on a path to really get the most out of this new hobby. He spent hours helping answer my stupid questions and fix my stupid mistakes. I would have given up on the hobby if it wasn’t for him and I wanted to pay him back somehow.
I was familiar with After Effects and video editing and compositing and I came up with an idea to do a PuPPack. I wanted to partner with John and let him upload it as the author, as a way of paying him back. John had never done a PuPPack, but I talked him into it, and that was probably 30 puppacks ago for him. We went on to do Avengers and The Getaway II together….I wanted to pay him back and I got to.
A few months ago, I was reading about the TWIPYs. A recognition award for real pinball. I thought, wow, Virtual Pin needs an awards program like that to recognize these creators who work so hard and get so little thanks. I asked a bunch of content creators if they would be interested in participating, the ones I knew and had developed a relationship like Scotty, Terry, and Nailbuster. I also asked some Real Pin folks, because I thought it would be cool to unify the hobby a bit, Zach Meny, Cary Hardy, and Jack Danger. All of who were great and said yes. I got MPT3K to agree to host the event on twitch and he’s a big advocate for both real pinball and virtual. I asked JP Salas and he recommended adding the major Vpin Website owners as presenters, and I thought that was a great idea. Most agreed to present as well.
I wanted it to be big but I was doing it primarily on my own and with my own money, and I knew I wanted to do it right so I allocated a budget of $1000 and came up with 10 Categories. I thought after year one we can expand to more categories and maybe people would want to contribute. I created a google form with just a few of what I felt were the most common names I heard come up as the initial Pre-Nominees, so people would understand the format I wanted but I stressed people to write in votes in both the video and the instructions because I knew I didn’t know everyone who contributes but the community does. My plan was to add in real-time as the community wrote in votes. I didn’t add any of my creations to the initial rollout either.
Rolling out the voting now feels like I lit a fuse to a massive pile of dynamite. I thought if someone didn’t agree they would give some constructive criticism and if I had to tweak I was totally open to it. I didn’t expect the response I got. The feedback was pretty cold and harsh. If it was the community beating it up, it wouldn’t have bothered me as much but it was the creators. The ones I wanted this awards to be for.
In retrospect, if the people I wanted to recognize, think this is a bad idea, it’s not something I want to do. I think I could redo the voting but it wouldn’t matter, people would always have an issue. I can’t recognize everyone as much as I would love to but I do appreciate everything this community does. So I’m pulling the plug and wish this community the best. I took a shot because it’s who I am. Thanks Terry an anyone else who agreed with the vision as well as those who didn’t agree but understood what I was trying to do and were constructive with their feedback. Voting is turned off."
TerryRed:
Just so you guys know... none of you guys from Pinball Nirvanna gave any indication of having issues with this. It had nothing to do with you guys.
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