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Future Pinball and BAM finding a new home

Ike Savage

Froggy like robot
Staff member
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Hate that idea. Don't want FP to turn into just another emulator and we all end up just doing hundreds of different versions of these games like vp/vpx. Sick of playing them after 20 years, would rather play original games that are brand new
I'm curious what long-term VPers might think when they see stuff like Gimli's labyrinth table. Not only is it a cool game and concept in its own right, but with VP you'd have to jump though absolute hoops to do something like that.

As I understand it, you'd have to pre-render every potential view and create a bunch of different, partially-obscured ball images to match what the ball would look like in every viewing situation in the maze. And at best the whole thing would still involve a bunch of fakery, since you can't actually tilt the slope in two axes like that.

I don't visit VPF much, but I'm guessing not too many VP folks fully understand what BAM brings to the table (NPI). Maybe it would stoke some interest, even from the jaded VP cabinet crowd.
 

Gimli

Pinball Wizard
I'm curious what long-term VPers might think when they see stuff like Gimli's labyrinth table. Not only is it a cool game and concept in its own right, but with VP you'd have to jump though absolute hoops to do something like that.
Thanks !
SLAM has a slogan "Think it , build it ,play it !"
And I think BAM can help us with that ...so some of these little ideas can help us iron out greater challenges
 

wild

Bam is FP
Staff member
Thanks for the explanation.....Ike Savage,but if abbreviations could be avoided, it would be better, to avoid nasty surprises when doing the translation. I still don't understand this AFAIK

the use of the "Rom" in Bam / FP, I do not mind, on the contrary it would solve the fat problem of the soils and music, which is difficult to extract, but as regards the coding I prefer to do it, myself, and that the "Rom" does not affect on my code

@shiva
Hmm, be funny if we ported over some vp original games to FP instead of the other way around.
which original VP table would you like in FP?......I've already made two
 

popotte

Flipper is good for you!
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Well... Some (new) guys could be a little bit afraid by GoPinball's forum (spams, response timle, ...). So, for me, it could be interesting to copy your guides here.
 

Ike Savage

Froggy like robot
Staff member
Site Supporters
Do you guys think I should copy my mega-guides for FP and BAM set up to PN or should we rely on Terry's video guide?

FP

BAM
Sounds like a no-brainer if you're indeed concerned about the stability of the host site. Either way, backups are good.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of video tutorials, and almost always prefer text, or illustrated text. Because text better allows me to go at my own speed, for one thing. Even if I'm in the minority in that preference, it couldn't hurt to have it available.

Btw, hope you're using your mod powers to sticky FP threads as appropriate. That stuff is certainly over my head for the time being..
 
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GeorgeH

Super Moderator
Staff member
Gimli,

I am not positive but I think the Help prefix that you used on your tutorials is supposed to be used for messages asking for help?

George
 

Ike Savage

Froggy like robot
Staff member
Site Supporters
@Gimli and @GeorgeH,
Honestly, you should feel free to try them out either way. Experiment a bit. As in, consider "help" as being from the POV of a manual, versus "help" as coming from the user end.

Feel free to mess round with that stuff, in other words. If you're the thread creator, you can go back and edit in another prefix. George (or other staff person) can also do it via mod powers.

At the admin level, we can also modify, edit or delete prefixes, and even work with their colors to make them prettier. I designed the green series of the VP8 - VP9 - VPX sequence, for example.

So yeah, at the end of the day I think it's helpful to consider these settings and this stuff to be sort of a brain-storming session involving all of us. When an opinion coalesces around what makes the most sense, we can make whatever 'final' adjustment seems best. 'Final,' because we can always go back and edit it. :)

But yeah, I wish we could set up multiple prefixes. That's a site limitation as it stands. Still, "tags" are an underused quantity IMO. Tags are similar to prefixes, yet you can add as many of them as you like.

For example, @pinballdaveh had a pretty great idea a few months ago to add manufacturer prefixes to the "Maintenance & Repair" section. IIRC one of us later realised that adding tags for "solved" or "unsolved" to each thread would be super-helpful as well.

Frankly, I could still use some help finishing off the solved / unsolved tags, but otherwise, we have the body of ~1000 M&R threads labelled correctly:
https://pinballnirvana.com/forums/index.php?forums/maintenance-repair.95/
 

GeorgeH

Super Moderator
Staff member
OK. The list looks nice. I looked at this one:


It looks like it should have a Williams prefix. So should I change it silently or notify the author.

Maybe we could create a prefix for Tutorial.
 

Ike Savage

Froggy like robot
Staff member
Site Supporters
...It looks like it should have a Williams prefix. So should I change it silently or notify the author.
You can most definitely add the Williams prefix. IMO no need to notify the thread author if you're only adding info. But if you're changing info, like the thread title or the text, then yeah, notifying is good.

Also, if the user had reported back "hey, that solved the problem," then the thread would be ripe for a "solved" tag. If no adviice was given OTOH, then "unsolved" would be the right tag.

Maybe we could create a prefix for Tutorial.
In terms of the M&R section, think that's fairly implied by the prefixes Repair, Maintenance and Upgrade/Project.

But each forum section can have its own set of prefixes. "Tutorial" might be something you'd want for the FP section, maybe?

Again, the big limitation with prefixes is that you can only set one per thread or resource.
 
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