i don't disagree with all that. it sounds pretty much like common sense, common decency, basic reason and simple logic to me.
and... anger is a potent motivator, to say the least.
you know there's another (non-VP) forum i've been hanging out at for over ten years which i'm all but done with at this point. it basically got taken over by trumpets right after the election. naturally i spent some time giving it right back to them, but realised that headstrong deaf people don't make for good conversationalists. the main reason i'm done with that place is actually because all of the best posters are now gone and the discussions are utter shite anymore. trumpism definitely had a hand in that, but i think there were more factors involved.
for example-- civilisation is becoming more complicated, stressful and full of pitfalls by the day, and i think the classical human-animal response is to push it away, or willfully disbelieve, or arrange it in a way that makes it seem under control... stuff like that. intelligence combined with openness certainly helps mitigate that, but overall i think people's minds are in retreat, lest they get overwhelmed. the people at that webforums demonstrated that nicely, as do trump voters IMO.
i think most voters here (as elsewhere) are simply unqualified to responsibly vote, and trump isn't the first knucklehead president to back his rump in to office. more like, he represents the worsening of a trend probably heightened by decades of the GOP's war against science and reason, and the voters are pretty much just behaving like the human-animals that they are.
ANYway... as for PN, i really don't see coil smoke (keith?) or anyone else trying to do much politicizing here. i barely pay attention to the chatbox, but i guess i can understand your frustration with that at the time. but overall it seems to me that the few people still posting here are usually helpful towards others and/or sometimes post a fun little snippet of this or that. i don't really see the problem with any particular member or this site itself, particularly in light of the knock-down, drag-out drama that's historically gone on here. *phew*
maybe it's time to buy some dollar-store china and break out ye olde baseball bat. :)