Pay Raise for Congress? Where's my Veto Chisel?!

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Is anyone enjoying the Pelosi - vs - Trump fireworks show?
News is, Congress is voting / has voted themselves a raise --- for merely being paperweights. I wanted to learn whether POTUS can veto such a bill, and couldn't find out one way or the other, but I grabbed this link as it was at least current with May of 2019...maybe someone else would also enjoy the read?

https://www.atr.org/do-nothing-house-democrats-want-pay-raise

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D.C., state and local politicians give themselves raises all the time.
the wage hikes, your paycheck, higher prices on gas, homes, your trips to the hardware store, recreational fun,
vehicle regy, auto repair and parts, your PC and hardware, your investments, your mobile phone and everything you do etc....
there is only one thing that does not fall into this idea i am talking about.
i will disclose it later.
imo, this is one way how politicians get their increase......what comes with higher prices?
take a guess....
 
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I would be OK with raises if they did anything other than bicker with the opposite party. We need a good president but have been unimpressed with the candidates. Doug Burgum interests me the most but I'm not sure he would work out either.
 
I would be OK with raises if they did anything other than bicker with the opposite party. We need a good president but have been unimpressed with the candidates. Doug Burgum interests me the most but I'm not sure he would work out either.
george, give them an inch they will take a mile.
the power in the house on capital hill and the white house has been bouncing back and forth for as long as i
can remember.
republicans, democrats, to the left, to the right, conservative, moderate, liberal etc....and listening to all the wonderful things they
were going to do for us for many decades.
does it look like any of them have done us any good.
we have melted down, broke with the biggest deficit in all history (30trillion) probably more and
now with the war and the national debt threatening our credit rating draining us more.
i don't see how we can come out of this.
all the bad mismanagement and bad decisions through the decades.
the Feds don't know what they are doing.
they have bungled everything they touch.
have you been watching the fake news, msnbc, cnn, news max and the other news.
look at all the corruption in the race for president for the next election in 2024..
if any of us peasants did that we would be in jail.
it's sick.
the country is on its death bed.
 
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can someone answer my Q from #2.
 
D.C., state and local politicians give themselves raises all the time.
the wage hikes, your paycheck, higher prices on gas, homes, your trips to the hardware store, recreational fun,
vehicle regy, auto repair and parts, your PC and hardware, your investments, your mobile phone and everything you do etc....
there is only one thing that does not fall into this idea i am talking about.
i will disclose it later.
imo, this is one way how politicians get their increase......what comes with higher prices?
take a guess....

The Fed usually increases interest rates which have been proven to lower inflation but with hardships for everyone.
 
The Fed usually increases interest rates which have been proven to lower inflation but with hardships for everyone.
that maybe but all the manipulation of stimulus, raising- lowering interest rates, quantitative easing is not working anymore.
the economy is crashing.
it crashed a long time ago..
 
As long as they keep pushing this green energy malarkey, and having their war on fossil fuels, the price of gas will be really high, and every business needs to ship their product to get it to the public, so all businesses are effected by high gas prices.
It raises the price on all goods, because it costs more to ship the goods out, and they make the consumers pay for it.

Funny they don't give a damned about China using fossil fuels, or being one of the worst polluters in the world, but they have no problem making the USA the bad guy here. (They really must hate their own country.) Not one of them says anything bad about China's role in this.
Maybe they will make us go back to horse and buggy eventually, but I am sure even then they will say the horses are farting too much, so we need to start making everybody power their own vehicles like the Flinstones did, and use their feet to move the vehicles.

Who will they blame for Climate Change, after all humans have died from starvation, because they couldn't use fossil fuels?
I am guessing after that, they will have AI robots sending our dead carcasses out into space, to cut down on Climate Change.

I don't think they will be happy, until there are no humans left to create a carbon footprint.

The climate has been changing on Earth since the dawn of time.

The Sahara desert used to be a jungle. Did humans cause this to happen because of their carbon footprint? Highly doubtful.

Simple solution...
Bring down the price of gasoline, and everything else will come down in price.
 
Bidenomics at work.
 
edit......ill get back to you.
meanwhile is anybody going to answer my Q from #2 on how politicians get their money and pay raises.
hint.....what comes with higher prices?
 
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Their pay should be based upon performance, their rate based upon deficit reduction and the well being of the people. This I would say on balance indicates they should be taking a payment reduction.
 
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Their pay should be based upon performance, their rate based upon deficit reduction and the well being of the people. This I would say on balance indicates they should be taking a payment reduction.
you still didn't answer the Q.
 
They raise your rent and say the reason is that the cost of living has increased, but they never lower the rent when the cost of living goes down.
It always goes one way, and that is up, never down.

When Trump was elected, Democrats said he was an illegitimate president, made up the Russia hoax, and pushed the lie with CIA, FBI, and DOJ and big tech companies, and made his job as president that much harder.
They spied on him illegally before and after he became president.
I believe even Madonna said she wanted to blow the white house up with a bomb.

So it is ok for Democrats to claim election fraud, and use every government agency and big tech companys to push their false narrative, but when Trump says there was election fraud, it is a criminal act now?

Trump gets impeached just for calling Ukraine to see if the Bidens were up to no good over there.
They said he was targeting a political opponent. What the hell do you call what's happening to Trump right now?
They will do anything to make sure Trump cannot be president. They have a mental problem and just can't accept that over half of the country voted for him.
But Biden can withhold a billion tax payer dollars, until they fired the prosecutor who was looking in to Burismas criminal behaviour, the company his son was part of.
They have that on video, but oh nothing to see here huh?
They have the proof that the Bidens were selling the USA out. Yet nothing is done about it.
No they have to keep making crap up about Trump, to try and get him, but with the Bidens, it is all there in black and white.
Two tiered justice system. If you are not a Democrat, then all laws broken are prosecuted. If you didn't commit a crime, they will make one up.
Talk about corruption. This is way beyond corruption. This is sedition, and everyone involved should be charged for their roles in pushing this BS.
They had to get big tech to censor evidence of Bidens corruption, before the last election. (Laptop from hell ring a bell?)
How is that not election interference?
What will they censor and supress this next election?
They can blame Russia, or whoever they want for election interference, but they in fact have done more damage to the USA than any of our adversaries.
They are the traitors.
I hope they are all cleaned out of every government agency and charged for their crimes against America.
They can only say it is Trumps fault for so long, and then people start seeing the truth.
You holler "Wolf" so many times, that nobody believes it anymore.
I am surprised they didn't blame Trump for the cocaine they found in the White House.
I am sure they will try to pin it on him anyways, as that is their MO. (Method of Operation)
Everything is Trumps fault according to Democrats.
And if you don't believe their lies, you are deemed a racist, and you will be canceled, censored, supressed, or even jailed.
People who do bad things, always get whats coming to them in the end.
Hopefully the end is near, and I hope they all pay for what they have done to this country.
They are a total disgrace.
It sickens me just thinking about it.

To answer your question, how do politicians get there money and pay raises?
It is called taxes for some. We the people pay their salaries.
While others sell influence to countries, and promise things to them, for money.
 
Xeno #13.....>>>>To answer your question, how do politicians get there money and pay raises?
It is called taxes for some. We the people pay their salaries.<<<<
xllnt, we have a winner.....everything we do is taxed.
with higher prices you pay higher taxes.
at this time it looks like the big money makers are gasoline and real estate.
gas is 50-75%tax goes to the state, local and federal gov't.
big oil and gov't is rakin' in billions.
i think we all know real estate is an ugly scam.
supposedly a lot of the tax collected from gas and high prices is going to the war in Ukraine.
 
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xeno#13
>>>Talk about corruption. This is way beyond corruption. <<<<
yeah Xeno, the corruption is really bad.
btw, where's my 1 solved solution in the profile bar under pinhead1 pinbal wizard for how to install multiple VP and VPX folders.
 
btw, where's my 1 solved solution in the profile bar under pinhead1 pinbal wizard for how to install multiple VP and VPX folders.
Can you post a link to your solution?
 
Can you post a link to your solution?
https://pinballnirvana.com/forums/threads/hi-im-thalamus.5406/post-145332 ....#16 and 17
multiple VP and VPX folders and how to do pinmame for mutiple VP and VPX folders.
create the VP folders then drop the installer in the folder and extract then rename them VP2, VP3 etc...
for VPX do the same and create the folders, drop the installer in and extract and repeat for every folder.
just change the name from the original VPX, to VPX2, VPX3 and as many as you want.
you cant have 2 folders in the same location with the same name.
i think it worked because i never heard back from mikey.
 
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That section is for Introductions, so that thread type does not allow for solutions.
it is still a solution on how to install mutiple VP and VPX folders.
without the folders it is not possible to have mutiple versions.
you can keep creating multiple folders for new updated installers and programs.
read #15 from mikey.
he was asking for a solution.
he didn't know how to create another directory.
you can have multiple VPX but need to create folders then put the installers in and extract.
then rename because you cannot have 2 folders with the same name.
without the folders it is not possible as far i know to have multiple VPX.
create the folders drop the installers in and rename them vpx, vpx2 etc....
 
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This country really is doomed, lol.

The idea that a chronic scam-artist, pedophile, grifter and complete narcissist would make a useful president is one of the saddest / most hilarious things ever. These "MAGA" voters only needed to pay attention over the decades to the dude's history, or just read up on the facts to determine just who the guy really was, yet they went ahead and voted against their own interests... multiple times, in many cases.

In terms of the Russian meddling, we have a landslide of facts showing that Russia (and China & N.Korea) have been running online troll & disinformation factories for some time now, and that Russia (undoubtedly the world's most egregious mafia-state) have had strong interest for decades in destabilising Europe & the States for their own advantages. Specifically, we had a bipartisan commission find that Russia meddled in the 2016 election, on top of a load of other evidence across industry, for example social media sites, such as Facebook.

Man-made climate change? I can say with 99.9% certainty that it's a thing, and that it's getting worse every year. Why? Because that's what the world's national academies have found and reconfirmed by the facts at every scientific level for... what? Over three decades, I guess? That's on top of the fact that scientists discovered the greenhouse effect and CO2's role in that all the way back to the 1800's. (seriously, look up the work of Swedish scientist Svante Arrhenius) And of course, during our industrial age, we've specialised in putting CO2 and other greenhouse gases in to the atmosphere at an absurd rate, and so far the best we've been able to do is to pump the brakes a little on our yearly GG increase, kicking the can down the road in the hopes that somebody else will solve the issue. Problem is, CC is coming on a lot faster than some were willing to believe, causing increasing heat waves, resultant wildfires, change in ocean currents, weather disasters, ocean acidification, loss of crop production (thanks Russia for doing your part), and many other problems & fallout.

So yeah, unfortunately, when enough people are willing to believe narratives over facts, that's when you become a nation of people (helped by a variety of dirty electoral tricks, such as gerrymandering & chronic vote suppression) who vote against their own interests, while corporations & oligarchs get to live in their own little reality bubbles, totally unconcerned about the future.

Imagine that-- a doomed nation with a huge attitude about facts & reality. Literally angry & defiant about willing to read even basic encyclopedia entries, to understand the facts, and follow what the best, most qualified experts are saying.

It's either laugh or cry, I guess.
 
So yeah, unfortunately, when enough people are willing to believe narratives over facts, that's when you become a nation of people (helped by a variety of dirty electoral tricks, such as gerrymandering & chronic vote suppression) who vote against their own interests, while corporations & oligarchs get to live in their own little reality bubbles, totally unconcerned about the future.

Imagine that-- a doomed nation with a huge attitude about facts & reality. Literally angry & defiant about willing to read even basic encyclopedia entries, to understand the facts, and follow what the best, most qualified experts are saying.

It's either laugh or cry, I guess.
Totally agree.
Many are willing to believe narratives over facts.
52 former CIA and FBI (The best, most qualified experts) signed a paper saying that Hunter Bidens laptop was Russian disinformation, but the fact of the matter is they knew damn well it was real and belonged to Hunter Biden, and they knew it wasn't Russian disinformation.
Then they censored anyone telling the truth about the facts on all social media sites.
Talk about chronic voter supression. They did this right before an election.

It seems that maybe both sides are dug in to their own narratives, rather than the clear view of facts and reality.

I don't trust any politicians, left or right.
 
...Many are willing to believe narratives over facts. ...

I think the situation is worse than that. Many people don't believe anything that is in the news media. What do they believe? They believe all the nonsense that is posted on social media by idiots. Consider also the younger generation generally thinks of themselves as very entitled and have a high degree of self-importance. It should make for an interesting future.
 
I think the situation is worse than that. Many people don't believe anything that is in the news media. What do they believe? They believe all the nonsense that is posted on social media by idiots. Consider also the younger generation generally thinks of themselves as very entitled and have a high degree of self-importance. It should make for an interesting future.
a lot of the younger gen has been brainwashed and are too young to know what is was like and how
corrupted everything is.
now the younger gen is really super angry and worried about their futures with college, loan debt and what kind of jobs will be here in the US as the economic melt down continues to get worse.
it is almost impossible for the younger gen to buy a house with prices
in my region a salary of 100k might get you in the door maybe.
even with a college degree most entry level jobs don't pay that well.
even if their salaries rise so will housing prices making it still very difficult to keep up with the criminally insane inflation and
housing prices.
 
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Sometimes it seems like the whole world is divided.
The only time I feel at peace is when I am working on these tables, or helping someone in the forums.
Thankfully we all have the love for Pinball games that brings us all together.
No matter what your race, creed, gender, or political views are, all are welcome here.

United we stand, divided we fall.

Make Pinball :pinball: , not War! :msgoodguy:
 
Sometimes it seems like the whole world is divided.
The only time I feel at peace is when I am working on these tables, or helping someone in the forums.
Thankfully we all have the love for Pinball games that brings us all together.
No matter what your race, creed, gender, or political views are, all are welcome here.

United we stand, divided we fall.

Make Pinball, not War! :msgoodguy:
the dividing line is the rich seem to be getting what they want and
the mainstreamers are getting the screws.
it's always about the money.
if you have enough money you can buy what you want especially now with the criminally insane inflation.
that's why we all need an escape or something to take our minds off the criminally insane politics.
 
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