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Visual Install Pack 8.1_2.1+NT - Feedback Thread

LeeVanCleef

RIP Ruby. Whosa good dog?
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Wow, your own Gorgar machine? Pretty cool! I played it a lot in an arcade as a kid. It was one of those machines you hated because it could be pretty tough, but couldn't keep from putting quarters in! You're probably not missing much on not owning the video game. The table graphics are a tad better, but those VPers do a pretty good job of emulating.
 

sleepy

Pinball Wizard
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Why can't the Williams folks get a hold of the Pro Pinball folks to do these commercial sims anyhow?
And how exasperating this is that they don't.
Jeez, I was talking about photo textured pin sims and 3d rendering in 1976, back before they could even do that stuff on the then available hardware (< 500 KHz. CPUs, pre-Z80s, no way at that time) and I'm getting old, but my folks took that idea too, but if you can figure my folks out, you're a better soul than I, for sure.
 
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LeeVanCleef

RIP Ruby. Whosa good dog?
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That is a shame! Pro Pinball still holds up pretty well all these years later. They could probably do a pretty good job of it.
 

Attackfrommars

Inserted Coin
When installing on a windows 7 machine. How do I make sure i am running as admin. ? Also I have win zip on my machine. Will these unzip the roms and cause problems since it is said to leave them unzipped ?

Thanks guys. Been looking forward to getting this working after almost a year before I found this forum
 

sleepy

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On the Hard Drive, Find the Visual Pinball .EXE file, usually named something like VPinball8.1 or the current VPinball9.12.exe.
Right-Click on it and from the Context Menu that appears,
select Run as...then on the next menu choose Administrator.

WinZip is safe. Just make sure to UNZIP the .VPT file to the Visual Pinball\Tables folder. .VPT = Visualpinball Pinball Table file.
Unzip any TTF Font files to the Windows\Font folder and unzip any scripts included in the Table.Zip file to either the Visual Pinball\Tables or Scripts folder. Usually either folder will work for scripts, but table authors usually make it easy by allowing the extra scripts to be placed in the Tables folder. Unzip any additional .Mp3 files to the Visual Pinball\Music folder.

Note that if Visual Pinball is installed using one of the the VP Kits like this thread is about, then the main folder may be found as C:\Games\ on the hard drive instead of C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball.

Then for VPinMame tables which recreate real world machines you will need a second ROM file specific to the game which you are trying to play. These can be found by looking up the pinball machine by name at

www.ipdb.org -download the PINMAME ROM(s)

AND MAKE SURE TO PUT THIS ROM.zip file in the vpinmame\Roms folder AND KEEP IT ZIPPED!

You can find the exact name of the VPinMame ROM if you have the Table.vpt. Start the table in Visual Pinball and if it is a VPinMame table and you do not have the ROM.zip for it in the Roms folder, you will see an error message which tells you the exact name of the ROM.
 

Attackfrommars

Inserted Coin
On the Hard Drive, Find the Visual Pinball .EXE file, usually named something like VPinball8.1 or the current VPinball9.12.exe.
Right-Click on it and from the Context Menu that appears,
select Run as...then on the next menu choose Administrator.

WinZip is safe. Just make sure to UNZIP the .VPT file to the Visual Pinball\Tables folder. .VPT = Visualpinball Pinball Table file.
Unzip any TTF Font files to the Windows\Font folder and unzip any scripts included in the Table.Zip file to either the Visual Pinball\Tables or Scripts folder. Usually either folder will work for scripts, but table authors usually make it easy by allowing the extra scripts to be placed in the Tables folder. Unzip any additional .Mp3 files to the Visual Pinball\Music folder.

Note that if Visual Pinball is installed using one of the the VP Kits like this thread is about, then the main folder may be found as C:\Games\ on the hard drive instead of C:\Program Files\Visual Pinball.

Then for VPinMame tables which recreate real world machines you will need a second ROM file specific to the game which you are trying to play. These can be found by looking up the pinball machine by name at

www.ipdb.org -download the PINMAME ROM(s)

AND MAKE SURE TO PUT THIS ROM.zip file in the vpinmame\Roms folder AND KEEP IT ZIPPED!

You can find the exact name of the VPinMame ROM if you have the Table.vpt. Start the table in Visual Pinball and if it is a VPinMame table and you do not have the ROM.zip for it in the Roms folder, you will see an error message which tells you the exact name of the ROM.

Ok well i still have to figure out the Visual Pinball 9.12 as i only have version 8 right now just to figure this out and get started. So i tried to follow your steps but i am sure i am missing things.

I found Simpsons Pinball Party. One of my favorites behind Attack From Mars. I found a VPinMame Rom for the game. I made sure i left it unzipped and put it into my Visual Pinball Roms folder. I had a error so i think it was asking for a Sega VGT file or something of that sort and i found a set of all of them and installed them into the Roms folder.

I went to retry the game and it loaded and came to the point where it says am i allowed to play the emulator and i said yes and it started to load up and said " There are CRC and or Length Errors, VPinMame may or may not be able to use the rom sets.

Then the table loads but all blurry and fuzzed out

How far off am i ? I grabbed a second set of roms for the game since you said i need to since it was a VPinmame.

I feel i am almost there and playing some of my all time favorites is right within reach.

I want to figure out how to install and get tables running with ease and then take on the project of building my own cab

Thanks for your fast response and help

Sorry for my delay but i have been out of town on business for almost 2 months

Keith:cheers:
 

JonPurpleHaze

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Hello,

ooopps, just reread your message and you were trying to play Simpsons Pinball Party, the script for the table I looked at mentions this in it:
Const RomSet1 = "simpprty" 'USA
Const RomSet2 = "simpprtf" 'France
Const RomSet3 = "simpprtg" 'Germany
Const RomSet4 = "simpprti" 'Italy
Const RomSet5 = "simpprtl" 'Spain
This indicates the script needs one of these rom sets, this file would be simpprty.zip you can find them at the IPDB here:
http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=4674
OR at Pinball Nirvana here:
http://pinballnirvana.com/modules/UpDownload/store_folder/Visual_PinMAME/roms/
You had mentioned
I made sure i left it unzipped and put it into my Visual Pinball Roms folder
, the file actually needs to stay zipped!
Just place the zip inside your roms folder, don't unzip it.

You also need the vbs files, you can find them here:
http://www.pinballnirvana.com/UpDownload-req-viewsdownload-sid-33.html
Unzip these files into your Tables folder.


I looked at one Attack from Mars Table and this was mentioned in the script:
Const RomSet1 = "afm_113b" 'arcade rom - with credits
Const RomSet2 = "afm_113" 'home rom - free play

This indicates the script needs one of these rom sets, these files would be afm_113b.zip or afm_113.zip, you can find them at the IPDB here:
http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=3781
OR at Pinball Nirvana here:
http://pinballnirvana.com/modules/UpDownload/store_folder/Visual_PinMAME/roms/




Hope that helps somewhat.
 
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Attackfrommars

Inserted Coin
Hello,

ooopps, just reread your message and you were trying to play Attack from Mars, the script for the table I looked at mentions this in it:
This indicates the script needs one of these rom sets, this file would be simpprty.zip you can find them at the IPDB here:
http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=4674
OR at Pinball Nirvana here:
http://pinballnirvana.com/modules/UpDownload/store_folder/Visual_PinMAME/roms/
You had mentioned , the file actually needs to stay zipped!
Just place the zip inside your roms folder, don't unzip it.

You also need the vbs files, you can find them here:
http://www.pinballnirvana.com/UpDownload-req-viewsdownload-sid-33.html
Unzip these files into your Tables folder.


I looked at one Attack from Mars Table and this was mentioned in the script:
Const RomSet1 = "afm_113b" 'arcade rom - with credits
Const RomSet2 = "afm_113" 'home rom - free play

This indicates the script needs one of these rom sets, these files would be afm_113b.zip or afm_113.zip, you can find them at the IPDB here:
http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=3781
OR at Pinball Nirvana here:
http://pinballnirvana.com/modules/UpDownload/store_folder/Visual_PinMAME/roms/




Hope that helps somewhat.

Hey thanks for the fast reply

Ok well I have the visual pinball going. I messed with it last night and I have South Park going no problem. All I had to do was download the table and two roms and it fire right up. I had a problem with it before and it was because my resolution was set off on my laptop.

I have a few issues now though. It may be the same kind of question as before but I'm stumped.

- I downloaded the Simpsons party table. The table loads up but when I hit play it tells me that the rom set is missing. I know the trick on looking at the screen when the table crashes and it will tell me the name of the rom. The name of the rom was " Simpprty "
So I put that rom, unzipped of course and still it says missing roms. I've tried almost every rom I can find and it still will not load up

- the last question is I download a few of my favorites Jpsalas since those tables are killer and when I go to load the table the visual pinball closes. I do not even get to the screen to play the game

A little confusing this visual pinball is but I only have south park so far and well let's say the sun cam up when I went to bed from playing it so many times. And it didn't even cost me a quarter :dance:

Thanks again for your help :cheers:

I can't wait to figure all this out so I can build myself a cab
 

JonPurpleHaze

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I just edited my post, the first part was, ooopps, just reread your message and you were trying to play Attack from Mars, that should be Simpsons Pinball Party.
I know the trick on looking at the screen when the table crashes and it will tell me the name of the rom. The name of the rom was " Simpprty "
So I put that rom, unzipped of course and still it says missing roms. I've tried almost every rom I can find and it still will not load up
I've been looking at The Simpsons Pinball Party from here:
http://www.pinballnirvana.com/UpDownload-req-viewdownloaddetails-lid-1430.html
The script calls for simpprty, the file you need is simpprty.zip or this:
PinMAME Romset (5.00)

"unzipped of course" is wrong, the file needs to remain as simpprty.zip placed inside your roms folder.
The script also calls for SEGA.VBS, make sure that this file is inside of your Tables folder.
You also need the vbs files, you can find them here:
http://www.pinballnirvana.com/UpDown...ad-sid-33.html

Unzip these files into your Tables folder.


I sometimes have trouble loading a Visual Pinmame table initially but you can hit the F3 key and make the table reload , maybe that will help.
 

Attackfrommars

Inserted Coin
I just edited my post, the first part was, ooopps, just reread your message and you were trying to play Attack from Mars, that should be Simpsons Pinball Party.I've been looking at The Simpsons Pinball Party from here:
http://www.pinballnirvana.com/UpDownload-req-viewdownloaddetails-lid-1430.html
The script calls for simpprty, the file you need is simpprty.zip or this:
PinMAME Romset (5.00)

"unzipped of course" is wrong, the file needs to remain as simpprty.zip placed inside your roms folder.
The script also calls for SEGA.VBS, make sure that this file is inside of your Tables folder.
You also need the vbs files, you can find them here:
http://www.pinballnirvana.com/UpDown...ad-sid-33.html

Unzip these files into your Tables folder.


I sometimes have trouble loading a Visual Pinmame table initially but you can hit the F3 key and make the table reload , maybe that will help.

Ok now the table is lodes you have me real close

I can see the table but it is still looking for the rom set Simpprty

I put that rom in the rom folder unzipped. I think I have downloaded that file a few times because now when I download it and put it into the rom folder it reads " Simpprty (4) "

Is this what is causing the problem you think ? Everything else is as you told me to put it

Thanks again for the continued help

Keith
 

JonPurpleHaze

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Yeah, you need this file as is, placed inside your roms folder:
PinMAME Romset (5.00)

Try to look inside this roms folder and make sure you have the file called "simpparty.zip", it can't be named anything else, you could also try to download all of the roms as mentioned earlier from here:
http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=4674

Const RomSet1 = "simpprty" 'USA
Const RomSet2 = "simpprtf" 'France
Const RomSet3 = "simpprtg" 'Germany
Const RomSet4 = "simpprti" 'Italy
Const RomSet5 = "simpprtl" 'Spain
 

Attackfrommars

Inserted Coin
Yeah, you need this file as is, placed inside your roms folder:
PinMAME Romset (5.00)

Try to look inside this roms folder and make sure you have the file called "simpparty.zip", it can't be named anything else, you could also try to download all of the roms as mentioned earlier from here:
http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=4674
Hey you are the best bro. I think that was the problem. It was naming the rom Simpprty (4). I renamed the rom to what it should be and tried again. Ah now I have 2 killer pinball games. Thank you so much

Would you happen to know the rom and pin for attack from mars. I have a version but it never boots up it just closes down

Thanks again. Simpsons party is killer. Used to cost me almost a buck to play each time at the pizza place up the street.

How many pins do you have ?
 

JonPurpleHaze

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Glad you got it working!

Here's an Attack from Mars Table for Visual Pinball 8:
http://www.pinballnirvana.com/UpDownload-req-viewdownloaddetails-lid-1426.html

I looked at one Attack from Mars Table and this was mentioned in the script:

Const RomSet1 = "afm_113b" 'arcade rom - with credits
Const RomSet2 = "afm_113" 'home rom - free play
This indicates the script needs one of these rom sets, these files would be afm_113b.zip or afm_113.zip, you can find them at the IPDB here:
http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=3781
OR at Pinball Nirvana here:
http://pinballnirvana.com/modules/Up..._PinMAME/roms/


The Attack from Mars table you have might be for Visual Pinball 9, you can find a VP9 program file here:
VP Program, Essential Files
 

Attackfrommars

Inserted Coin
Glad you got it working!

Here's an Attack from Mars Table for Visual Pinball 8:
http://www.pinballnirvana.com/UpDownload-req-viewdownloaddetails-lid-1426.html

I looked at one Attack from Mars Table and this was mentioned in the script:

This indicates the script needs one of these rom sets, these files would be afm_113b.zip or afm_113.zip, you can find them at the IPDB here:
http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=3781
OR at Pinball Nirvana here:
http://pinballnirvana.com/modules/Up..._PinMAME/roms/


The Attack from Mars table you have might be for Visual Pinball 9, you can find a VP9 program file here:
VP Program, Essential Files

Hey


Thanks Attack from Mars works first shot. Only problem is everything plays nice on it but the sound effects are real loud but the tables music and the voices are real low. Dont think the other tables had that problem. Is it the rom or a setting i could change ?


thanks again
 

Attackfrommars

Inserted Coin
Take a look at the last 2 posts in this thread:
Help with ST-TNG


:cheers::pinball:



I will look into that for sure

I just downloaded and setup Tales from the Crypt. Killer !



Question. Most of these killer tables like Scared Stiff and all seems to be on VP9. You gave me the download link but question will it overwrite the old VP8 i have on my system now ?


I will be putting this on my HTPC that i built myself. I was just using the Laptop to figure out how to set everything up. Games like the Simpsons Party are taxing my small onboard graphics on this slow laptop. I have a big Nvidia card in my other case

This is killer !!!!

Thanks for all your help.. I may need it again soon :help!:
 

Attackfrommars

Inserted Coin
Here's a direct link to a VP9 .exe file, you can unzip this into your VP folder and it won't disrupt anything (don't rename the file), just use this .exe file to play a VP9 Table.


http://www.pinballnirvana.com/UpDownload-req-viewdownloaddetails-lid-1804.html


:rockband:

Hey boss could i ask ya where you download your table and roms ? is it from this forum ? Seems everyone i try from VPforums i can not get to load the table right. Everyone that i get from the sites you have work.


Im trying to get theatre of magic. I have the table but do not know which rom. I tried to run the table and get it to crash and tell me but it did not give me the normal message i see. So i couldnt copy the rom file needed


But it did try to boot up VP9
 

JonPurpleHaze

Site Nudger
Staff member
Hey boss could i ask ya where you download your table and roms ? is it from this forum ? Seems everyone i try from VPforums i can not get to load the table right. Everyone that i get from the sites you have work.


Im trying to get theatre of magic. I have the table but do not know which rom. I tried to run the table and get it to crash and tell me but it did not give me the normal message i see. So i couldnt copy the rom file needed


But it did try to boot up VP9
The files @ vpforums should work fine, make sure you are using the vp9 exe file for VP9 Tables, they probably have newer versions. Pinball Nirvana's downloads are here:
http://www.pinballnirvana.com/UpDownload.html
AND here:
http://www.pinballnirvana.com/forums/downloads.php

The VP8 table of Theatre of Magic here:
http://www.pinballnirvana.com/UpDownload-req-viewdownloaddetails-lid-1555.html

Requires this rom file tom_13 or tom_13.zip:
http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=2845
PinMAME Romset (1.3X)

Sorry about all of the links but the previous problem was the renaming of the rom file, these rom files can't be renamed.
 
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