My eyewitness account of PD's insanity (a must read!)

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The following story tells the true tale of my account with PD stemming from his "fucking idiots" thread over here (the full story), along with some interjections that talk about some of the nasty things PD has done to myself and others (all true, there is proof). If you don't want to read it all because it is so long, let me just say that PD was "caught" in a big and nasty lie/accusation about me (just one of many) and there is nothing he can do to squirm out of it. And it is a lie that everybody can verify for themselves. That is what I love about it!
Simply, PD has done some pretty ugly things that aren't good for the community or individuals. Most of you guys know this.
When will it end?

You seem like a tmfp type of punk to me, hope you find some happiness..

No, you would never be asked to be on this staff again, you already fucked up....

It's over, PD wants you to think his tables are special but they are packaged with a bunch of BS.

Jon

:cheers: :birthdayboy: :yourock:

Oh oh. Looks like PacDude is off the medication again.
Ah well, who cares, he's so far gone now in his own personal ego trip that he doesn't even realize what he did that pissed off Jon enough to decide he just isn't worth the effort anymore.

Of course, I had nothing to do with it, I don't involve myself in stuff like this anymore, but have to say I was rather pleasantly surprised when I woke up and read Jon's posts. Maybe if we are all lucky, he can stay at VPF where he is more than happy to lie, rumor mong, and slander my name and just about everyone else that has talent, where he appears to be allowed to.

Hopefully this time, he will actually keep his word for a change and never return. Then he's your problem

:bigdance:

I love emoticons! Hopefully they correctly convey my displeasure with anybody who dare think PD is not the Adonis, the masterpiece, the savior of all who believe.
Guess what? You guys aren't going to join PD in the afterlife.
In case you didn't know, you better read his sig. He is the self-proclaimed dark lord of the silver ball.
And some people think he has an ego? Really?
Just look at his Avatar as well, he thinks he is Garth Vader, or whatever his name is. If his sig/avatar alone doesn't scream "egomaniac", I don't know what does. You don't see me pasting a pic of my head onto Fabio's body and making it an avatar!!!
He compares people to Star Wars figures. Nothing wrong with that or even the avatar if he is kidding around, but you can tell he is dead serious with that stuff, which is a bit creepy.

Well, it seems PD has pissed people off here just like everywhere else.
You would think that when he pisses people off everywhere he goes, he might actually catch on that he is the common denominator. I don't see anybody else starting "bash fucking idiot" threads about myself, rob046. Most people talk about me where I can be found, I don't come here. Most people, even if they don't like my opinions or personality, still are able to show some type of respect just as I would do for them.
It is sweet to see other people (other than the usual suspects) confront PD.
What is better is that it's great to see even more people actually admit they see the same things I do. Everybody see's it, but some still try to remain neutral or not say anything at all. Because if you do, you might have staff breathing down your neck (at VPF at least) or become subject to his grandiosity and how he uses flat out lies to win an argument easily, he thinks.

But let me tell you guys a story about the PD that really fucked up this time.
PD, for some time now, has been after me. What brought this on? Damned if I know. One day I dared to tell him something wasn't perfect with one of his tables, next thing I know he starts telling people that I'm about to morph into KC and hoard my tables? Very random and I still don't understand that. It was just to piss me off, I think, because he knew I didn’t like KC’s views.
"Whatever", I thought to myself. The other thing that really got him after me was the fact that I built a table. Horrible, isn't it? What was I thinking!
I built my first VPM table, which turned out well considering it was my first attempt at building a table like that. I still had a lot to learn though, and I have.
Anyhow, this table got some pretty good attention. People liked the table and the way I did it. This was when PD really turned to the "dark side" on me (that is a star wars reference, isn't it?). He didn't like having any new author on his VPM scene, especially if they can or potentially can make tables that might rival his. He didn't like any attention being taken away from him.
I don't need to explain all of that; you guys know how he is. Also, I don't really need to go into detail about the types of things he does to people as you guys know that as well.
Let's just say that he of course has attacked me, insulted my family (that was over the line), spreads/tells outlandish lies about me, accuses me that my tables are done by somebody else and I take credit for them because I don't have the talent (what?!!), backstabbed me (most recent), constantly tells me to leave VPF and that I'm not wanted there (as if he runs the place), and he constantly feels like he is the judge and jury of what the staff should do to me (as if he runs the place).

And all of that nastiness doesn't even include the insane things he says because of his ego (I call it egogiganticus). Those types of things can be found in every post of his, including in this thread multiple times.
I don't claim to be an angel myself, but I do have standards, I care about pinball a lot, and I happen to be opinionated when something or someone disrespects the scene (and the entire pinball scene) and makes a place (VPF) very uncomfortable and irritating for anybody that might come around with talent.

If you are fresh meat, you will have a hard time breaking into the scene. Even if you've been around 3 years you are probably still fair game for him to hunt. PD doesn't like change; he doesn't want any attention taken away from "his" VP and "his" tables. This is very much reflected in how much he despises FP. The more he feels threatened by somebody or something, the more he will try to bash it away.

Anyhow, let me say how PD fucked up this time. We were having an argument (one of many) at VPF that started a few days ago. It was typical PD. He did something stupid, in this case he tossed an obvious grenade trying to start something with somebody else because how dare they say they have a fix to one of his tables.
I knew the thread was going to blow up, which it did with this particular person he tossed the grenade to, and I called him out on his BS (like I always do).
From there, things were still typical. I stated some opinions and observations about what I see in him and think about him. Then, of course, he counters by telling flat out lies about me then claim them as being a fact.
PD isn’t very big on having proof to back up his allegedly “true†accusations. Then I mentioned in that thread, while calling him out, I said "Karma is a bitch". And wouldn't you know it, it was about to get him good!

During our argument, I made a certain comment about PD. Then Paratech came in and told me that I was pretty accurate with what I said, and he linked me that "fucking idiots" thread here at PN.
Now I don't come here and it's obvious that I don't post here. PD well knows this.
So what happened is when PD found himself on the losing end of our dispute over there, he apparently felt that he needed to go somewhere else and post all the crap he wants about me in a place where I won't know about it.
Where I come from, we call that a nasty case of backstabbing. It might be one thing if he started the thread over here at another time. But the fact that he started it right when I started to penetrate his ego with some truth at VPF is partly what is so shady and nasty about it. Of course, it isn't very admirable to do something like this in any case to begin with (especially knowing what PD’s intentions were).

Then he didn't even have the balls to call me out. He said "should fucking idiots be allowed..". Even though he damn well knew and so did everybody else that he was talking about me. Which he admitted in his next post anyhow and admitted in this thread as well.
Yet another reason why it was so shady and ego filled was because he actually has enough delusional thoughts to actually accuse "me" of the reason why we won't get a new VP!!! ME? OK PD, whatever makes you feel better. I'd like to know the reasoning behind that one. Oh wait, no I wouldn't!

Moving on about his fucking idiots thread, then he accused me of kissing Black's ass (I don't even know the guy or ever even talk to him, in fact he probably doesn’t like me because I have openly criticized things about FP, even if it was with good intentions). Then he started talking about libel like he does in every post. Libel? In a pinball forum? Then he tells me to stay the fuck away from VP because I'm going to ruin it?!? Yeah, as if PD is god's greatest gift to the hobby. I'm now convinced that he has taken away from the community more than his tables could every make up for.
Then he even has the nerve to bash the VPF staff to top things off.

So it is one thing to talk behind my back, but at the very least have the respect (if that word can even be used with backstabbing) to talk about facts instead of random assumptions and lies (like most respectful backstabbers would). PD took it to a whole new level because of that and his timing. And some of you guys were already pissed at his thread (obviously) and didn't even know some of the story behind it.

Oh, and let's not forget how dirty his mouth is! Here I was always thinking that PD had standards in that area because he was so "Christian". I was proved wrong again. Just the couple F-words I used in this post are usually as far as I'm willing to go, but he had to put it in his title and splatter fucks everywhere. However, I don't claim to be a very religious man. But PD always talks about how he is religious and why that makes him better than everybody else. The irony is just so great with PD. He will say he is Christian, yet just the things he says in one post are enough to send him to hell. I know he will probably argue that he has "modified" (more irony) his religion to his liking or something like that and follows his own rules. In other words, to nobody's surprise, he is his own God. Yet he's Christian? Yeah, I don't get it either...

Back to the story.
I found out about this thread here at PN and of course I told him that posting all of this over here (along with the BS and lies he is already posting at VPF) was well over the line. Deal with me like a man, not a pansy that backstabs and hits the "report post" button every time I write something.
Those are the things PD does, especially when you get him on the ropes. He get's desperate and will say or do absolutely anything to get you to go away. It isn't fun dealing with that, but I knew I was getting close to achieving something. Remember Karma?

Then, becoming the most desperate I've ever seen him, he wrote the following post to me (exact quote)...

You are such a liar, Rob. Do you think I don't know about the crap you were posting at the Future Pinball forums about me???? Man, hypocrisy knows NO bounds with you now does it?

Yup, he said that. And he was dead wrong. If he is going to make the accusation that I'm doing the same thing to him that he is doing to me over here, then to me that is a MAJOR act of disrespect and insult. One of the worst yet. Why? Because I do have standards. There are certain things I won't do or say to people no matter how much I may not like them. That is why it has always been a struggle dealing with PD. He uses tactics that are beyond what most people are willing to do.
Anyhow, I gave him every option to back up the accusation and prove me wrong.
I told him it was sink or swim time. Time to actually back up an accusation of this magnitude for once. But he can't, and he knows he can't.
What is sad is that his ego is so far out of control that he actually thinks that other people do the same things he does. He believed this so much that he thought he could make this accusation about me and be positive there would be proof of it.
I told him to scour those forums, hack into them, ask the community over there, or ask any individual over there if I have ever even done so much as mention his name (let alone start a nasty bash thread about him). I told him to do whatever he needs to get this “proofâ€.
Then I predicted that PD would find a really lame excuse to try and squirm out of it (as always). Too bad for him there are no excuses he can use to save himself from this one. Oh, he still tried though.

He said something along the lines of "well, Black must have just deleted the threads or it must have been somebody else who was saying stuff about me".
Wrong answer!
What PD is saying there is that even though I told him to prove it directly after he made this statement; he is saying that I got a hold of Black, Black quickly scoured every post at FP, and then deleted anything that might of mentioned PD, and then I had to tell every registered user over there to back me up if PD asks them if I talked trash about him. All within a very short time frame!!
Also, I've never seen a PD bash thread over there from anybody and he can search to verify that as well. So there goes the "somebody else" excuse also. We care just about pinball and FP at the FP forums, PD. I know that is hard for you to comprehend, but it isn't a "bash PD" forums.
I guess what I'm saying here (if you haven't noticed) is that PD was caught in a huge lie with no way to back it up or squirm out of it. Amazing that he still tried to anyhow. Then again, PD would say something like "a bunch of aliens from the planet Xenu captured me then brainwashed me into saying that about you, so it wasn't my fault" before he ever admits he is just flat wrong about something.
You guys know that.

However, I would still want PD to take back what he has been saying about me and admit he is wrong. That is his only way out. But I don't know if he is capable of that without adding a ridiculous excuse.
Just him shutting up would give so much back to the community. It would make the whole author scene more fertile, which should lead to better tables, ect. But right now, PD is like bad soil, not wanting to allow anything or anyone else to grow or flourish.
That is what needs to stop.
I hope it does, but I've accomplished my goal which was to catch PD with his hand in the cookie jar. I don't even like to write things like this and I need to stop wasting my time on it, but it is my true account of PD and needs said.

People need to know because he is poisoning the community. Since staff would rather not take action over there to get him to stop harassing and spreading lies about people, I figure the only way to fight that was to let him destroy his own self. And he did. Maybe he will turn over a new leaf, but he probably won't. In any case, I hope he does. And I would have new respect for him.

It's great that some people like PD's tables. However, making his tables stand out by eliminating other authors (as shiva already pointed out and I'm sure many others are aware of) isn't the best way to do that. Use talent for that PD, not pure wickedness.
Also, as jon so kindly pointed out...â€PD wants you to think his tables are special, but they are packaged with a bunch of BSâ€. That is so true in so many different ways. Most of which I didn't even get into here. That would take another long ass post and you all already know what kind of crap about him it would be filled with.
It is a shame for those who don’t know the crap PD is up to and give him praise all the time. I've always said that PD is lucky to have fans that don't know who he is.
 
RE: My eyewitness account of PD

I agree it sucks that PacDude can and does say things that you or I, certainly I would fine moved to the junkyard as soon as they were read, a warning from one staffer and a ban for a few days at least by another. But it's PacDude don't you know. He made 30 tables don't you know.

I thought he said it was about Paratech though, not you. Not that that should matter.

You said something about Black's work? You should know better than that. That should not upset PacDude though.

Lies mean nothing here or at VPF, just who tell them is all that matters, don't you know that. I have been pointing out lies that costed me my membership and no one cares to hear it.

Advice for dealing with PacDude... Shut up and suck his cock, or shut up. Some people, if they don't know, you can't tell them.
 
RE: My eyewitness account of PD

Amazing isn't it?

The only thing I want to add (and trust me, I can add a lot more) is just a reflection on something that rob said about FP.

We all saw that list of names that PacDude used, but what struck me about that list was most of them were designers of tables, and quite a few of them have moved to FP and won't do VP/VPM games anymore.

The other thing is the very large amount of new talent that suddenly has sprung up there. These are guys we never heard of before, but unless there's some miracle drug you can buy that will instantly make you a better pinball designer, I bet they were around here as well.

Another of his "friends" has now decided to insult several of us by saying we have half of the talent together than what PacDude has. It took me several hours to pick myself up from the floor over that one. I don't claim to be the best designer in the world, (Though I have been ACCUSED of thinking that all the time) but it also sadden's me as well, because I feel the reason these new people are at FP is because they don't want to be subjected to that. All they have is their love of pinball.

This has been going on for a long time, 8 years now. It's not PacDude's fault, he is what he is, he can't help it, nor does it matter what your opinion is of him. This is the entire communities fault, we all allowed him to do what he does, and we are now seeing the results, and we are all worse off from it.

Now I fully expect his vile to appear in this thread shortly, but all he ever does is accuse me of things he has done or tried to do himself. He has had a hatred of me from the beginning, and because I supposely have 10% of the talent he has according to one of his cronies post here, I guess that automatically makes me good enough to be a target anyway.

It doesn't matter. I love to build tables, and I think I have maybe just a tiny tiny bit more than 10% of the talent that he has, but that would be a personal opinion, which I don't seem to be allowed to express according to him.

I like some of his tables, though I do admit I fix a few things, I feel he is a good designer when he wants to be. But there is one big difference between him and me as designers. He makes tables just for his own ego. I make my tables out of love.

Whether that makes me better than him, or he is better than me, well who cares? All I have asked with my tables is that people make their own opinion themselves, and not make a opinion because they have been told to by certain people. All I want to do is build tables, and share them with others my love for pinball that I have had for 30 years. I have a unique style, it's evolving to something that's totally different than what most people do, yet I also feel suppressed because of what this group has constantly said about me in their personal attacks.

They can't attack talent, no matter how big or small it is, so they attack character, and worse of it all, others have allowed them to do so.

Maybe that's why all that new talent are doing FP tables. They have eyes, they can read VPF and other boards, do you think they want to be subjected to the same treatment as nearly ALL decent VP authors have been getting?

I am so ashamed of this community for allowing this to happen
 
RE: My eyewitness account of PD

You are rather opinionated, for someone that has not released 30 tables.

Hush now, I think PacDude wants to speak.
 
RE: My eyewitness account of PD

Besides I think you alone, shiva, is 1/6 PacDude, and that's better than 1/10. I thought you were better than that but the math is proof. you built 5 and 5 is 1/6 of 30.
Me, I'm 1/30th PacDude greatness because I built only one (actually I though it was three, but PacDude has spoken and he says one.) I must have been dreaming I was PacDude when I thought I was doing POTO and non VPM mmpac. Don't you hate it when that happens?
 
RE: My eyewitness account of PD

Non VPM mmpac.

I have a funny story about that. Your site had a contest years back for the best VP conversion and mmpac was nominated. there was another, I forget what it was, but it was a western with a big long row of drops on the left and music that had nothing to do with the table and that and mmpac were the only two getting more than a mere smattering of votes. mmpac would get 3 and that would get one, then mmpac would get 7 and that would get none or one or two, but in the span of 2 seconds, with only 3 people logged on the other would tie, or go ahead and ended up winning by one? Remember that?
 
RE: My eyewitness account of PD

actually, nope, must have been years ago. I have problems remembering my own phone number sometimes.

actually, I have had 10, if you include sorceror, se tables and a couple others now lost due to my hard drive going. Doesn't count all the stuff I never released.

I guess that makes me 1/3 the talent of PacDude now. Hey, I'm moving up in the world. :p
 
What others?
 

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Wow, it's the Rob/Shockman/Shiva/Shockman/Shockman/Shockman/Shiva/Shockman BITCH FEST! Hooray for boring snoozes!

And this has to be the FIRST time in HISTORY anyone has suggested Gravitar is one of my "friends". Frankly, I thought I was on Gravitar's shit list since he was in pretty tight with the old VPF staff, but I have nothing against him so if he wants to work together to make Space Station better, so much the better for Space Station.

But it's amazing how people think anyone who supports me is either my friend or some fan sucking my dick. If that doesn't smack of sour grapes, I don't know what does.

And I'm amazed how you know my motivation for making tables, Shiva! You must be a mind reader!

As for Rob's comments, well I couldn't be bothered to read that monster length rant. It's just too fucking long. Until Rob learns how to flame more concisely, I'm not sure anyone will bother reading it except Shiva and Shockman, which probably explains why they're the only ones responding here. Either that or no one else gives a shit.
 
Hey! I give a shit! I actually read the whole post, I wish all of you guys would keep your posts a little shorter.

Where do I start? Rob thinks PD finally fucked up..... Old news, PD has fucked up many times, lots of them were just for the hell of it, nothing new here. PD is who he is, I like him, sometimes he'll post something that is totally off the wall, but other times he'll post stuff that's spot on the money.

I never thought GravataR was anyone's friend :) I think GravataR was just screwing around with us and I thought it was kind of funny. I doubt if he's even tried out 20 VP tables in the last year as I always think of him as a "real" pinball table player

I've released at least 25 tables, I don't even have a copy of all of them :) I think 23 of them suck, so don't go looking for them. I don't have a copy of all of PD's table either. I might have a copy of all Leo Wankers and Bendigo's VP tables though. I don't remember having any GravataR tables.

I think most of us outspoken VP'ers have fucked up a few times, but who cares, it keeps the forums hopping. Try not to take this stuff so personally as we aren't real people, we are just screennames entertaining each other.

Thanks to JPH for giving us this forum to spout off in.

Latest VPF news.... Shockman still banned, story at eleven.
 
Yeah, let's all chill out and be a bit less offended at comments on internet forums, amen to what Bob said.

I quite like both PD and Rob046. Both have made great tables although I don't see Rob046's FP tables as I haven't used FP for quite a while, the physics are too much of an issue for me. PD cracks me up sometimes, but he can be irritating. Rob046 needs to reduce the size of his posts. But, hey, we all have our faults.

I think I'll do something useful and try and get some more done on Jive Time, oh, and do some work as that's what I'm meant to be doing here ;).

DS
 
Well until I actually see something from Gravitar (say feedback on the flasher locations from the operator mode or the station footage of it rotating), I'm guessing you're right, Bob. I think he was just playing with us. :twisted:

I'll be taking my computer down (for moving to the new house) within the next few days and probably won't have internet access for a week or so, maybe two since I have to get the cable guy to come out there and they won't even come out until I have a TV, Computer and a Phone to do the full package of TV/Digital Phone and High Speed Internet. The good news is that for about the price I'm already paying for those services, I will have unlimited long distance with digital quality and an internet connection that is about 10x faster than my current one (5Mbs instead of 512kbs with the option of 10Mbs down and 1.5Mbs uploads for $20 more a month) plus they actually have a DVR with full HDTV support included (finally will be able to time-shift the prime-time stuff I miss on afternoon shift).
 
Make sure they give you a separate line for the pc - those DVR boxes will kill a third of your bandwidth if they are split. As for VOIP...well, Adelphia dropped that offering here because there were too many problems so I hope you have a cell or some backup plan to call 911 if it goes out.
 
this thread was not a must-read. :(
 
this thread was not a must-read.

Name one ever anywhere, that was.

It's funny. Stupid, but funny that people will post in a thread to bitch about people that have posted in that thread.


Wow, it's the Rob/Shockman/Shiva/Shockman/Shockman/Shockman/Shiva/Shockman BITCH FEST!

Is that all it is PacDude, is that all the people that have responded?

And this has to be the FIRST time in HISTORY anyone has suggested Gravitar is one of my "friends". Frankly, I thought I was on Gravitar's shit list since he was in pretty tight with the old VPF staff, but I have nothing against him so if he wants to work together to make Space Station better, so much the better for Space Station.

But it's amazing how people think anyone who supports me is either my friend or some fan sucking my dick. If that doesn't smack of sour grapes, I don't know what does.

And I'm amazed how you know my motivation for making tables, Shiva! You must be a mind reader!

As for Rob's comments, well I couldn't be bothered to read that monster length rant. It's just too fucking long. Until Rob learns how to flame more concisely, I'm not sure anyone will bother reading it except Shiva and Shockman, which probably explains why they're the only ones responding here. Either that or no one else gives a shit.


Now where did that come from. WELCOME to our bitchfest PacDude, make yourself at home.

At least we stayed on topic. Thanks for the heads up on your absence from us comming up, that was devine of you, but it is off topic.
 
PacDude does stuff other tell people how to think regarding politics, religion, and pinball?

And we're getting up to two weeks relief from him doing that?

I say we enjoy the time he's gone...

:)
 
PD: Maybe we'd be friends if you would at least say HI when you attend a show I'm at. :)

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I think I have shown thoughout the past that I'll provide info and pictures to anyone thats needs them regardless of vpf/pn/fp/vpff affiliations. Heck, I even provide pics/playtesting info to Duglis/Destruk for gosh sakes!

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Regarding Space Station:
I now have a place to upload vids to that can hold up to 25meg files. Just have to get the vid uploaded and forward the link to ya (PD)

Flasher Locations: PM me what you need regarding those and the info will be sent. I dont read the forums to often so may have missed your request. You can see by my infrequent postings and my logins at all pinball emu sights that this is true.

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I have not touched a single VP/VPM/FP table in ages accept for TSPP. My main interest in pinball is indeed playing/collecting/ and picture taking of the real machines.

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As for the 1/6th the ability statement goes it was truely meant as a joke to get some people riled up and to watch the impending reactions. I see it worked then and is still working to this day. So some of it must be true afterall. Simply hilarious IMHO.

GravitaR
 
I'd have to know what you looked like in order to say hello, Gravitar.

As for what info, run through the VPM table's operator tests and compare them to the real machine and tell me which flashers I have set wrong compared with which bulbs. That's the main thing I need to know at this point.

Thanks,
PD
 
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