VP9 Help VP9.9 ALWAYS crashes no matter which version. Except,VP9.9 PhysMod5. Won't even load editor! Does Win10 cause this? What else???

[1st2MprovFIRE!]

Does anyone know a way to fix getting an immediate "white screen"-crash-to-Desktop error, when running any of the VP9.9.exes?? LITERALLY, the only VP9.9 of ANY kind I can get working, is VP9.9 PhysMod 5. Which, I cannot get the flippers to work properly on. It's like they're in "slow-mo" mode & the ball acts like it weighs a TON, when it lands on them(EXTREME level of gravity from the ball/flippers are weighed-down). So, I cannot play ANY table w/ PhysMod 5(everything else works fine, otherwise)...

I've tried tweaking most of the settings & the flippers act like they're ALWAYS in a "Slow-Mo" mode setting. And, like I briefly said before, when the ball lands on them, it acts like it weighs WAY too-much(like gravity is 10 times stronger, than it should be). Yet, altering the gravity/flipper settings do NOTHING to change this...

If anyone knows why this is happening on PhysMod 5/how to fix it, so that the flippers/ball act NORMALLY. PLEASE, explain what I'm doing wrong. This has been a prob. for YEARS & I asked about getting help before, some time ago(sometime last year, I think). But, no one could ever explain. It seems I'm LITERALLY the only 1 seeing these things happen. And, I just thought maybe I would ask again, because I can't believe no one else has ever encountered these probs.. And, I recently tried altering just about EVERY setting, to see if I just didn't think of everything, back-then...

Also, I checked into doing nearly everything possible to solve the various VP9.9XX crashing prob.. Except, a complete re-install. Which, is too-difficult w/ all I have installed( I have nearly 45 GBs of VP stuff, since I've always downloaded EVERYTHING ever made for pre-VP8/VP8/VP9). And, /most/ VP9 tables will work w/ VP9.2.1. Except, some of the day/night mod tables(I only need to get 1 type of VP9.9 working, to have my probs. solved). Anyway, I'm here to try, once again, to get help. As, I recently started playing VP9, again(I can't run VPX10 properly, so it's the most-recent I can play on). To explain, my PC is from 2014-2015 & has integrated GFX. So, VPX is too-much for my specs. (I mostly just play VP8,actually)...

Anyway, I might not have mentioned any of that, before (about my specs.)& was thinking they /might/ have something to do w/ my probs. . Also, maybe I didn't provide enough other info, last time?? Additionally, maybe by now, someone knows how to at least make PhysMod 5 behave like a /normal/ VP9 version???

I also understand more about VP settings & scripts, now. After, having fixed many no-longer-working-in-the-modern-age VP8 PC/videogame converted tables. As, they rely on running music scripts that no longer work(or, at least, don't seem to work on Win10/for me). So, if it's a scripting issue w/ PhysMod5, I can understand how to fix it, now. If, someone can tell me what controls the things mentioned above...

Anyway, if it's because I've got integrated graphics & Win10, then maybe that explains it. But, I can't figure-out why I can run Phys Mod 5, but no other form of VP9.9???

Lastly, I've also tried replacing the individual VP9.9X minimal files & both over-writing & not over-writing the "freeimage.dll" that comes w/ them. But, not the other .dll("SciLexer.dll"). As, it doesn't seem that file changes until VPX(btw- should I remove the "sciLexerVP.dll" since I don't use VPX),right?? Which, I did install the FULL version of VPX, to start all this off with. Since, it included all of the VP9.9 stuff & I thought that would be best(the forums made it sound like it would be). In case, that makes a difference(hopefully not, since I can't un-do the effects of it)...

Anyways, if anyone understands what I can do(besides a complete re-install),to fix ANY of these things, PLEASE inform me. As, otherwise, it looks like I'll have to wait until I get an entirely new PC, to see if I can do a full-install from scratch. Which, hopefully won't cause probs. when I import my pre-VP9 collection. However, I worry THAT'S what caused the other VP9.9 versions to malfunction(maybe???) & I will HAVE to find a way to make them all co-exist. As, I have WAY more VP8 tables than any other...

In any case, sorry for the length. I wanted to make sure I was as informative as possible though. So, that time isn't wasted on things I've already tried & I've discussed at length everything I can think of saying...

If nothing else, PLEASE explain how to adjust PhysMod5 flippers/ball behaviors, if nothing besides a full re-install will fix the VP9.9 crashes. As, that's what I think I'll have to settle for, as far as an actual fix, goes. But, any ideas/suggestions are welcomed. Just be informed "Xenonph" himself, tried to help w/ the crashes & couldn't help me solve the problem(he explained, at-length, how to alter the registry, but even that didn't stop the crashing). So, there's that to consider, as well...

-Thanks in advance, for any new ideas...

 

[xenonph]

Not sure about your other problems, but the PhysMod5.exe can only run tables made with PhysMod5.
Running a non PhysMod5 table with the PhysMod5.exe will result in flipper lag, and the ball will be too big to fit through some areas on table.
Check the top of this list to find all PhysMod5 tables. (4 sections with PhysMod5 tables)

Visual_Pinball_2020-06-20 directory listing

 

[pinhead1]

oh wow, i feel your frustration.
we all had a lot of frustration when first starting out.
i hope this helps.
do you go online with your PinBall PC?
i had a lot of errors untill i stopped going online with my PB PC.
i suspect the internet is scrambeling your PB stuff and components go missing.
do a good cleanout of the PC and disk cleanup then restart.
try it again to see if it is any better.
if not try a fresh reinstall of vp912 and see what happens...skip 9.9 for now.
i'm surprised 921 still works after taking a beating from the internet.
stay off the internet with your PB PC.
if it works you got your answer.
you will need to reinstall all your PB programs and stay off the dark internet with your PB PC.
BTW, win10 is fine...some are using win7 and maybe vista.

 

[pinhead1]

really....nobody wants to challenge my suggestion above in #3,
works for me.
i stayed off the web with my PB PC and the errors stopped.
if i get an error maybe i might have to do the paths to pin-mame sometimes.
what about you 1st2improve in #1.
did you get a fix on it?
i waited for days for replies to come up with ideas until your post was getting real close to
running of the page....
nobody else came up with any suggestions.
just trying to help.
been there.....very frustrating.
i still think it's best to get it working then stay off the web for a week or 2 and see if the
problems stop or at least lighten up.