BTTF solution involving changing flipper speed?

[Pinball Monk]

I’ve been tinkering around with Scapino’s Cirqus Voltaire 3.0, trying to get it to run a bit better on my poor little PC. The most annoying problem was the ball through the flipper phenomenon. I did the usual research, searching threads, and came across a thread regarding using the Ultracade physics setting to fix the flipper problem in VP 8.1. Here’s my question: has the other problem with ramps in the Ultracade setting been solved yet? By this I mean, when the ball flies off the ramps, or even off the table. This is much better than having the ball go through the flippers, but I was just wondering if anyone had come up with a fix for this yet. I haven’t been able to find the thread I was reading again. It was over in the VP forums somewhere.
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I’ve also read comments that hint at a BTTF solution involving changing flipper speed but didn’t mention the exact settings or code. Can anyone point me to a detailed explanation of the flipper settings needed?
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Thanks very much,
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Dave

 

[StevOz]

Yes I use the normal VP physics with a faster downswing in my original tables to prevent the ball though flippers. Here is the code.

 Sub Table1_KeyDown(ByVal keycode)

    If keycode = PlungerKey Then
        Plunger.PullBack
    End If

    If keycode = LeftFlipperKey and gameon and tilt < 3 Then    
         LeftFlipper.Speed = 0.07
         LeftFlipper.Strength = 3
         LeftFlipper.RotateToEnd
         PlaySound "FlipperUp"
     End If
      
     If keycode = RightFlipperKey and gameon and Tilt < 3 Then
         RightFlipper.Speed = 0.07
         RightFlipper.Strength = 3
         RightFlipper.RotateToEnd
         PlaySound "FlipperUp"
     End If
 
 
 
    
    If keycode = LeftTiltKey Then
        Nudge 30, 2
    End If
    
    If keycode = RightTiltKey Then
        Nudge 330, 2
    End If
    
    If keycode = CenterTiltKey Then
        Nudge 0, 2
    End If
    
End Sub

Sub Table1_KeyUp(ByVal keycode)

    If keycode = PlungerKey Then
        Plunger.Fire
    End If
            
     If keycode = LeftFlipperKey and gameon and tilt < 3 Then    
            LeftFlipper.Speed = 0.15
         LeftFlipper.Strength = 0.1
         LeftFlipper.RotateToStart
         PlaySound "FlipperDown"
     End If
          
     If keycode = RightFlipperKey and gameon and Tilt < 3 Then
         RightFlipper.Speed = 0.15
         RightFlipper.Strength = 0.1
         RightFlipper.RotateToStart
         PlaySound "FlipperDown"
     End If
 
End Sub

 

[Pinball Monk]

Thanks Steve.

Thanks very much Steve. Have a great weekend.

Dave

 

[Shockman]

Fixing balls flying off the ramps was an easy problem compar

 

[Pinball Monk]

It looks like Shockman's avatar silenced him in mid sentence.

 

[Shockman]

I don't know how that happened. I never edited that post.

I said the ball through the flipper though a simple solution, took hundreds of hours with many people working on methods to reduce it, and some worked very well, but nothing worked 100% until moving the flipper down so fast the ball would not touch it.

Balls flying off a ramp should never happen. I can make a ramp shaped like an upside down V and the ball would not fly off if i did not want it to. You can set the glass height to 50 above it if it is the highest element on the table that will hold a ball, or you could put a roof with invisible ramps the same height above them. Not a complete foof. just a patch of two or three slivers of ramp so nerrow you can't see them.

 

[Pinball Monk]

Thanks for the info Shockman. I think my "flying balls" problem had to do with Ultracade physics. One time a ball bounced into the plunger lane and landed on the right side rail. Part of the ball was actually in the side artwork.

Anyway after changing the flipper speed, the BTTF problem happens a lot less often.

Thanks again.