Friends, If You Are Wondering Why You Are Not Allowed Multiple Radio Contest Winnings

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You can probably thank me for that. It was probably my fault.

KROQ AM Burbank, Ca was a brand new Top 40 radio station in 1972.
The station was co-founded by DJ Sam Riddle who was a well known personality in Los Angeles due to his tenure at Boss Radio KHJ (Top 40).
I personally hated the 'Boss' moniker, but no matter.

KROQ launched with Zero promotion. No billboards. No print ads. Nobody knew of their existence on the dial. I found them one night when I was bored, by turning the dial all the way to the right, past the Mariachi stations, but before hitting the deep groove soul and funk station, the one with the slogan, "Hit Breakers" that the arty local taggers used to convert to "Shit Breakers" on the station's billboards.

But KROQ AM had no billboards.

The station planned their success strictly by word-of-mouth with many phone contests, All of this was strictly on-air promotion. But you had to find it on your own.

On a side note, I was Terrified of talking on-air. My impediment was Thick. When I would try to say something like "Forty-Four", it always came out as "Forny-Four". And "Wheaties" came out of my mouth as "Wienies".
So yeah. I wasn't feeling too cool on the air as a contestant, and my nervousness added to the fire

But I found it. I lived 10 miles away from the station. And I hit the jackpot Big Time. In the course of 30 days, I won

~Albums~
Seventh Sojourn-Moody Blues
No Secrets-Carly Simon
Hummingbird-Seals and Crofts
Living in the Past-Jethro Tull
Catch Bull at Four-Cat Stevens
Don't Shoot Me, I'm Only the Piano Player-Elton John

~Singles~
Summer Song-Chad and Jeremy

Brother Love's Traveling Salvation Show-Neil Diamond-The Shitty studio version single. But the version that they played on-air was the superior live version from the "Hot August Night" album which was not released as a single. Go figure...

Rocking Down the Highway-Doobie Bros.

Three of those albums were won in three consecutive hours on the same show. The DJ was Dick Lyons. I won everything that he had to give.
This guy:

http://classicdjradioscrapbook.blogspot.com/2008/10/kgbss-dick-lyons.html

In hindsight, doesn't that dude look like Jerry Houser? I think I went to school with him...

At that time, I went by my middle name, "Lynn". And this was because with my speech impediment, others made much fun of people and things at my expense. People like "Arnold Stang" and "Arnold Ziffle" who was the pig on the t.v. show, "Green Acres". So the name "Arnold" was not cool, and I used "Lynn" as the contest winner.

Dick was getting P.Oed. at me, He never let on. He would graciously announce my name as the winner. It was a simple phone-in/first come contest. But he was in fact P.O'ed at me.

When I won the final album prize at the end of his show, he announced, "And Congratulations to our Winner, "Linda McMunn". This was after announcing my true name a couple of times before.

I told my Brother about it. I was upset. The contest rules did not at that time disallow multiple wins. Else I wouldn't have gone there. Brother got on the phone and bitched Dick out for the insult.
And I reasoned that, if they have a problem with multiple winnings, then they should change their rules instead of pissing on their one and only listener.

So I quit playing those phone games. But a month or so later, they had a "Recognize the Voice" contest. I correctly recognized Yoko Ono in a generic sound byte. This time, the prize was an eight-track AM/FM Stereo receiver.
I had no problems with the DJ.

But the receiver did not arrive. Weeks went past. The station was in the dumps, still with no outward promotion. A month or more later, I was on the phone to the station's general office with no receiver in sight. They couldn't tell me anything.

Two months later, I called, or my Brother called, and we were told to pick it up at some distant location away from the station. Good!

Shortly thereafter, contest rules limiting entries were adopted as a standard. Does it matter?

KROQ AM died like a dog and was converted to the sister station of world-famous punk and new wave KROQ FM in the late 70's when the parent FM station was launched.
 
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The album rock station in Wichita once had the temerity to broadcast a Rolling Stones Trivia Weekend. They didn't hesitate to allow me to go out there and grab my seven prizes. I didn't fare as well on The Who weekend... only won five prizes.
And if you're wondering why you got stuck with such crappy prizes like Carly Simon, Seals and Crofts and Moody Snooze, thank the DJs, because we got first dibs! The year your pals at WEA sent us a huge box of catalog titles for giveaways was Xmas come early for me! I'm gonna take a quick look at the ones I still have in my collection:

A Decade of Steely Dan
The Allman Brothers: Beginnings (their first two albums on one disc)
Neil Young - Rust Never Sleeps
Neil Young - Tonight's the Night
Neil Young - Comes a Time.

I was really into Neil at the time. Hope no one else in the listening audience was, because they sure didn't get any. Hope they're still listening to that Damn Yankees CD they got in its place.
 
Aw, man... how come I'm not on the classic radio DJ blog? You couldn't get more classic than me! Alas, all that's left of my illustrious career was a mention in Billboard when they canned me. I didn't find out until decades later that I made Billboard. It's like if a Christian discovered they were mentioned in the Bible. I also didn't know they posted my home phone number! I guess that shows just how many calls I got, begging for my services afterwards. https://books.google.com/books?id=R...6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=Bill Richards KRZZ&f=false
 
One or two of those albums, I don't need. They borrowed the tunes and passed them along.

WEA was right next door. I was temp at Warner Reprise Creative Services.
As temp flunkie, every time my assignment was completed, Gene Benson pointed to the mezzanine cage (call it The Vault where The Keepers were stored) and allowed the exiting temps to each take home 4 albums of our choice.

I was a Quad nut, so I took home Aqualung (CD-4), some Joni Mitchell (CD-4), Electric Ladyland (stereo), Rumours (stereo), Kink Kronicles (stereo), and others that I can't remember now. I had the 12 inch 45 rpm pressing of "Go Your Own Way". Remember, in '76-'77, a "CD-4" was not a Compact Disc. CD-4 was the discreet vinyl quadraphonic format.

And about taking first dibs! While at Creative Services for a year as Temp Flunkie, once I rode along to the post office with the demos in the back seat of "Mark's Car", a Datsun Z80. "Mark" was A Trusted Employee. He worked directly for CS. Mr. Benson drove a 1974 Honda Civic...

As soon as we were out of sight and on the road, with a hand on the wheel at 35 M.P.H., "Mark" reached behind his seat, rummaging through the piles of mailout album demos.
This was for a major release. It might have been "Rumours"...can't remember which.
He was looking at the names on each one, picking out the lesser folks and keeping several of those to himself.

Both Aaron's Records in Hollywood and Moby Disc on Ventura Blvd. bought used records, and they paid premium for unopened major releases, though less than they would for retail copies. Unless it was a collector's rarity.

The last time I saw "Mark" was the other night when I looked up Google Images for the CEO of Time Warner Cable. Robert D. He also bears a striking resemblance to Mick Jones of Foreigner. Can't talk about that though...
 
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...except that the tune for "Cold as Ice" was one of mine...
 
About "The Keepers". If there were leftovers that were Not Keepers, then we were handed these remaining boxes of 25 duds each to unsleeve each and every one of them and smack them smartly against the hard corner of the steel Dumpster until all were shattered.
So that no one could try to sell them.

And the five fingering that was going on there. We also processed the posters and in-store Mobiles (remember those?). The posters came in bulk and we put those in tubes or boxes one by one, then smacked an address label on the tube or box. We had a wet sponge to damp the label's adhesive with.
The permanent employees usually had a small plastic tin of finger moisturizer to use because handling that much paper dries out the finger oils. When that happens, you can't pick much cotton. The stacks of address labels became inseparable without the oils or the moisturizer.

The Mobiles came individually pre-packaged, and so we only labeled them for mailout and then put them back in the bulk boxes that they came in because the Mobiles were usually shipped to the main headquarters of each record store chain. Tower. Licorice Pizza. The Warehouse. Big Ben's. Moby Disc. So we labeled the individual Mobile packs for the individual stores within each record store chain as a convenience. If the store's head office wanted to, they would then uncrate the Mobiles and send them as individual units as they were already addressed to each local outlet.

I once found one of the labeled Mobile packs that we were mailing out that day tossed in the dumpster. I believe it was a Friday.

And oh yeah. I was a naive young buck of 23 years. One day in 1977, Mr. Benson broke out some Dry White Wine in the coffee room, with vienna sausages in broth as an appetizer. I sipped it and asked him, "Grapefruit Wine?".
 
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speaking of winning things here is a trick that i figured out. when a store has a drawing for a prize that you have to fill out a paper and put it in a slot of a sealed box. fill out the paper then fold the paper in a funny shape, and put it in box yourself. when the drawing time comes they will usually have a child reach in the box and pull out the winner. when a child touches your paper that feels like something different they will usually pull it out. otherwise a flat piece of paper will have the same slim chance of winning as all the other flat pieces of paper. i have won a tv and gift cert's using this method.
 
But not if they scan the entries into a computer that uses a randomizer function to select from the resultant data base. Only works for physical drawings.

But so many contests these days are through an online site.
 
KRZZ? Am I speaking to Steve?
 
LOL! Not unless this is a seance! Of the five guys, including me, that were filling the dayslots when I started at KRZZ on overnights, only two of us are alive... and those guys really weren't all that old when they cashed in! And I'm getting the feeling that this is not a radio contest I'm gonna win. So a tip of the winner's cap to Trent "Treetop" Tyler, wherever he may be.
 
Is this Bill? You got whacked by Clear Channel?
 
Yep, that would be me. Although it had little to do with Clear Channel. We had only recently jumped in to their gaping gullet at the time. No, the guy running the Top 40 station that we had acquired really didn't like Steve and decided he wanted to give 'em the old heave-ho. I was just part of the detritus. Lucky me!
 
And you're no longer in Dallas? Aw Bill, you know about the psychic shit.

I started as a little boy on the farm at peace with myself, looking out over the rolling pastures of green from my back porch in the sun day mornings. Then they got me all messed up with acting like Quakers and Holy Rollers while putting me to making stuff up with two finger piano and calling it Tequila and La Bamba and Elvis and Buddy Holly and Everly Bros. and on and on. And exactly because of that psychic shit, I don't know where I'm at. Maybe Milli Vanilli? And one of those dudes looks like my apartment manager, though he is now claiming to be white Hispanic with no dreadlocks! Shocking...

And that "American Pie" song...
 
Now, this is garbage. The kind of thing that my folks throw up when I assert my memories. More psychic shit. Looks like they're doing it off-handed as usual, by discrediting the truth through external sources while denying everything locally.

Exhibit A. Wikipedia claims that the song "Falling in Love (With You)" was based on this melody:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Can't_Help_Falling_in_Love

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Do you hear the similarities in this piece? I don't. It is merely redolent.
But it is good to know that Elvis' publishing company went by the moniker, "Gladys Music". My Mom's name is Gladys too!
And several years ago, when I suggested an Elvis t.v. series, they produced it, from beyond the grave, I guess.

But I don't remember where I'm at...

Falling in Love
The Wonder of You
My Way
What else??

Oh yeah...

New York, New York

...but that wasn't Elvis

I was called to Warners the day he died. When the news broke, Mr. Benson and crew had no reaction. Others expected the death due to drug O.D. use.
 
And I want to set this straight. They're messing with me over the money and their temperaments. I think my Uncle was one of the Warner Bros., a Russian Polish guy who married in to my family and claimed to be German while all the time wearing a guise. I think "he" was Vivian Vance. He had the same growl as she used when she said "Lucy".
EDIT: Remember that climax in the movie "The Great Race" where she becomes the boss. That film was a WB release. But no matter.

I'm not messing with them. They are like dogs from The Gulag. They slipped me a fecal burger at the In 'n Out Burger stand on Lankershim Blvd. coming home from The Beatles taping. It hit me like Ebola.

I am working through a fecal-induced stroke and eye infection atm. Something that they arranged. I Would Love To leave them on their lonesome. Walk away from the money and just start over by my own abilities. But they don't like flesh and bone people. They like guises. They seem to hate Men. They want to call the shots, even when it is not their business to do so. Like Bimbos. They get nasty when I suggest legal rep for my Rights. That's when they staged the truck accident I was in, and then raped me over the claims by their stunt driver. He filed through an attorney and then claimed over $4,100 in injuries. But the whole time this happened, the locals in my apartment were hooting about it across the plaza, as though they were winning some kind of battle..let's call their professional behavior Mala Fide.

But like the line in "Godfather III", they keep trying to pull me in, else wipe me out.

It's not me serving up the shit food from their holdings.

EDIT#2: On a better day, I took the Universal Studios Tour. Not that I wanted to. But these bitches are so hostile about Their Arguments and so closed mouth about Everything, that I went just to check in to my feeling about them.

The tour guide on the tram said a very odd thing. He said that, "Looking to your left, down below, you can see the Warner Bros. Studios. They used to be Our Friends."
Later in the day, I bought a hot dog. That food was good, and I received the 10% discount on an annual pass. At least it wasn't like the pyrophosphate O.D. "fresh ground burger" that I was given at Disneyland a few years earlier while mending the perforated ulcer that they stuck me with via morbid sleep deprivation.
 
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And about "that truck accident".

See that small center teardrop dent in the middle of this mess? That's where we collided. My rear wheels were still in the driveway. He cut a lazy left turn from the center lane into the double truck-sized main driveway and slashed in front of me as I was exiting the driveway making a left turn. I looked right, then left. Waited < 5 seconds for two cars to pass and pulled out. Then the collision. He was turning into the driveway in front of me. He was turning in when we hit, which explains the small teardrop dent in the middle.

That wide swatch all around the center teardrop dent all the way back to the bumper was caused when he backed up over my bumper and then pulled into the driveway again over my bumper. My bullshit insurance adjuster awarded him for the entire damage. And the attorney settled for $4,100 (same Progressive Insurance Adjuster) , claiming "severe forward and backward whiplash and back injury" and that "I damaged him for Life". What? At a 10 M.P.H. glancing dent. He was the one moving 10 M.P.H. I think I managed to stop, judging by the small teardrop dent from his turning in against my bumper the first time.


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I do not believe that line of extrusion with white paint which appears below the teardrop could be made by pushing in with my bumper corner. The extrusion is deepest at the teardrop, and I think due to his turning in against the concave shape on the collision, rubbing it, and then backing up and then running against the concave shape below my bumper again. He pushed the extrusion on EDIT: All three counts.

That broad shallow patch of scratched white above and in front (toward the front of the truck) of the teardrop was where he rubbed against my corner light as he pulled in. He broke that lamp and got paid for it. I am expecting Progressive to jack my rates on account of it...
 
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Free Elvis book!

Yes, that song is definitely what they based Can't Help Falling in Love on. And Now or Never is O Solo Mio. And Are You Lonesome Tonight? was an old '20s song. Good ol' Colonel Tom was very good at circumnavigating copyrights to find his boy some hits. I think that's why Lieber and Stoller split with the King pre-army. They wanted a little more cash and the Colonel "slipped them the ol' fecal burger" as they say in the biz. He rightly assumed that E would do fine without them. All he had to do was sacrifice his artistic integrity and record shitty songs like "Do the Clam". But don't take my word for it. I'm going to include the best Elvis biography I've ever read. This one is the "pre-army" book. If anyone's interested in Part Deaux, let me know.
 

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Aw well. I think I'm at peace without it. :)
 
I have a story about a radio contest winning. OK, not really a "contest", more like a "what will you do for..."

In spring or summer of '96 my friend Jenny called me and asked me if I wanted to go see George Carlin at the Fox in Atlanta. She said they won 4 free tickets, and her and 2 friends were going and said I could be their 4th, so hell yeah, I'm going to go see George Carlin for free.

So they pick me up and on the ride there I asked what the contest was and how they won. They said they were listening to 96 Rock at about 2 AM and the DJ said they had tickets to give away and to call in. So they called and apparently it was answered directly in the studio during a break and after talking to him for a bit he said if they came up to the studio and played a game with them, they would get the tickets.

So they get there and it's the DJ and a couple guys who ask to see their boobs. They're young and wild and do it, and the DJ goes a step further and ask to motorboat the girl with the biggest boobs, which she complies, while they record it, then put the sound on the air and say they'll give Carlin tickets to the first person who can guess what the sound is. The first woman who calls says "you're blowing into someone's boobs". They say they got the tickets after that and left... I say more may have happened, they were pretty crazy.

And that's how I got to see George Carlin live. I love Carlin, but to be honest, it wasn't that great because already I knew every single routine he did by heart. Not one fresh bit.

(I hope this is relevant, not trying to hijack Sleepy's thread)
 
So. The Motorboat girls got the tickets, and so did the caller who correctly guessed what the DJ was trying to do with 'em? Was that eight tickets, or did somebody get screwed?
 
Btw, gotta love the Catholics. The odds are good the girls were pulling your leg and the DJ was only blowing his own elbow. On the soft, succulent inner crease of it.
 
Btw, about those 6 Minute Radio Commercial Breaks Three, Four, and Five Times an Hour These Days, are The Arbitrons coming in that low for most broadcasters? Is it all about the money?

And with That Much break time, Why Are They Running Station Promos in virtually Every 6 Minute Break? And DITTO for T.V.
 
Man, I have no clue. You live in a strange and vicious country where stations are doing Three for Thursdays like they were a bunch of savages! Can Four for Fridays be far behind? If I were to hazard a guess, I'm going to say that they're grabbing for cash hand over fist. Non-NPR terrestrial broadcasters truly have a captive audience: people with absolutely nowhere else to go for music. So they just batter their ever-shrinking audiences with commercials just to keep poor lil' Timmy Clearchannel in braces. Our normal breaks were two 6-minute stopovers for commercials per hour, always programmed against whenever our closest competitor was hawking their wares. My boss was desperate to catch those channel-flippers! The only thing that sounds familiar is that we, too, would spray the call letters a little more often during ratings cycles. It may also be for perceived brevity. I've noticed that, when a local Madison station breaks, they're quick to point out that they'll be back to music in, like, 90 seconds, I think? So they make the breaks shorter while actually increasing the number of breaks you have to sit through. I don't like the idea personally, but you'd be surprised (or maybe you wouldn't) how easy it is to fool most of the people most of the time.
 
Yo Buddy. Those captive audiences? I'm in Los Angeles. We got all the Internet radio and Sirius and what else don't I know.

Broadcasting-wise, from top to bottom we have Power, then KIIS, KTWV Smooth Jazz and Urban, then the also-ran classic rock stations (2 1/2), KROQ FM, and K-RTH Top 40 oldies, a couple of CHR, and several public stations. Everything else is Latin, with a couple of news and several talk stations. And Disney Radio in there somewhere on the AM / HD band.

After posting, I thought about it, and it seems like in L.A. they are suffering a financial conflict of interest. The owners might also be invested in pay-for-play and subscription services, so maybe they are really trying to crap out the terrestrial stations in order to drive us to the pay stations and outlets, online or?

And then, like Air Guitar in the 70's. These days with iTunes and MOD, we now have Self-DJs. The control freaks don't care about the music. They only care about taking control of the experience.

Do you use HD Radio? Is that doing anything, or is it dying like AM Stereo did in the...was it the 80's? I can't remember.
 
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