George Martin, 1926 - 2016

[Isaac Sauvage]

i remember arguing about something in this thread, but now they're playing "mirror, mirror" and i need to watch it so i can go fact-check stuff.

another day and a new dalai lama imposter.

 

[LeeVanCleef]

The dalai lama seems like a fine role model. Myself, I'd choose "evil" Spock. That's a great goatee and he seems like a guy who could really make the starships run on time.

 

[sleepy]

My impression of the deal is that the Jacksons are selling off the catalog to Sony. They've had control of it since the 80's, which is why the Nike ads appeared. Sony had 50% ownership and now they have full control. There is also something about the songs being returned to LenMac slowly, starting in 2018.

What the hell were the Jacksons doing with my Billie Jean? That one was based on my "Walk on By" from '62. I played both of those in their time before they became known thanks to others. It's the ghetto game the folks have been playing. I'm sitting here growing deadly old while the next "5 fingers" hears stuff through the wall while passing by on his skateboard, runs like a pig, escapes ghetto, achieves fame and fortune, runs out of luck when his victims quit creating it. And so "they commit suicide" like Cobain. An "OD" like Hoon or Jackson.
I'm still holding MJ sound (one of My Sounds). He wasn't coming across. I feel like I'm the old Priest guarding the gate in "The Sentinel".

@Ike: Arguing something about respect. I know I've overstepped.

 

[Coil_Smoke]

Mirroring Mirror Mirror

This is a email I sent out back in Nov. 2014. I had just discovered Star Trek fan stuffs on YouTube. Fighting off some initial revulsion I came to realize some of this, especially 'Star Trek Continues' with it's cadre of old, new and offspring actors, is a real treasure.

Hey, Suspend your disbelief...See ; The "Enterprise" rain death on the HALKAN EMPIRE>>>The third episode of "STAR TREK CONTINUES"<<<...KK

... PICKING UP WHERE MIROR MIROR LEFT OFF ...​

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqBfJMOAgxpLooYH0WkLpmw

 

[LeeVanCleef]

WOW! Here's my review of the first 30 seconds. It sounds like the original cast has done a lot of helium. The guy playing Kirk looks like what a young William Shatner would have resembled if he had gotten hit in the face by a ham. But don't think I'm not gonna watch the rest! I think I saw the first "season" these guys put together years ago. I think the original Chekov was in one of their productions!

 

[Isaac Sauvage]

i like the script idea, but it's hard for me to get through these fan tributes when they choose to play it straight.

i think there's gotta be a baseline parody factor in order to make it work, as tall spock demonstrates here:



Spock Vegas


EDIT: whoa... the guy playing scotty is actually james doohan's son!

 

[GSGregg]

The third episode of "STAR TREK CONTINUES"<<<...KK

... PICKING UP WHERE MIRROR MIRROR LEFT OFF ...​

I was unaware of any of this (so, thanks---you can relax / uncoil now) and decided to catch up in order of release.....and I have a request: WAKE THE DUMMY who's prompting me to download Adobe Flash before I can see 'Turnabout Intruder', because I HAVE IT ALREADY---21.0.0.182, which Adobe says is the latest!

I realize that having watched 'Fairest Of Them All' means I deviated from the order, but obviously, my Flash Player works.....

 

[LeeVanCleef]

That was the most adorable thing done in the name of Star Trek since that movie where Spock brings home the stray whales! Once you get used to "helium-voiced" Kirk, that guy pulls off a pretty good mid-'60s Shatner!
When I was a kid, there was a book of "fan-written stories" called Star Trek: The New Voyages... and some of those stories weren't too bad. One of the craziest ones that I loved was "Visit to a Strange Planet... Revisited", in which a "Mirror, Mirror" transporter malfunction lands the actors on the real Enterprise! This is the only copy I could find online. Hope you like blue! http://members.optusnet.com.au/virgothomas/space/trek/weirdplanet.html

There is, of course, a story called Visit to a Strange Planet, in which the "real" characters end up on the set of the TV show. After years of searching, I found a copy of that one online, as well... but that was awhile ago and I don't remember it being as good as this one.

 

[Coil_Smoke]

'Every Thing Old Is New Again'

That was the most adorable thing done in the name of Star Trek since that movie where Spock brings home the stray whales! Once you get used to "helium-voiced" Kirk, that guy pulls off a pretty good mid-'60s Shatner!
When I was a kid, there was a book of "fan-written stories" called Star Trek: The New Voyages... and some of those stories weren't too bad. One of the craziest ones that I loved was "Visit to a Strange Planet... Revisited", in which a "Mirror, Mirror" transporter malfunction lands the actors on the real Enterprise! This is the only copy I could find online. Hope you like blue! http://members.optusnet.com.au/virgothomas/space/trek/weirdplanet.html

There is, of course, a story called Visit to a Strange Planet, in which the "real" characters end up on the set of the TV show. After years of searching, I found a copy of that one online, as well... but that was awhile ago and I don't remember it being as good as this one.

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[LeeVanCleef]

I was looking online to see if I could find "Mind-Sifter", one of my favorite stories from that short story book... and imagine my surprise to find that those crazy bastards who did that episode above did a version of the story themselves! I always thought it would have been a great basis for a Trek film, but they blew their "time-travel" wad on Spock's pet whales. Not that it was a bad movie (after all, it was one of the "even-numbered" Star Treks), but Shatner would have bit into this role with the stunning grace of a T-Rex!
EDIT: Well, I stand corrected. This appears to be a whole other gang of crazy bastards making their own Star Trek! Well, I love the story, so I'm still gonna give it a shot. I think I'm still gonna wish that "ham-face" Kirk was in this one too.

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[LeeVanCleef]

i remember arguing about something in this thread, but now they're playing "mirror, mirror" and i need to watch it so i can go fact-check stuff.

another day and a new dalai lama imposter.

Nic, your inability to write a coherent thought is absolutely stunning! When I first read this, I thought “well, as usual, I don’t know what the fuck he’s talking about, but maybe he’s trying to apologize for being such an asshole and he's going to be more like the Dalai Lama.” Ah, but that was incorrect… wasn’t it, Nic?
Just so that everyone here is caught up, Nicky decided to drag his petty Pinball Nirvana bullshit onto my Facebook page where he lost control of himself and made a snotty comment on something that didn’t have anything to do with him, Pinball Nirvana or known horse-fucker George Martin.

CENSORED UPON DEMAND! DEEMED "TOO FILTHY FOR THE INTERNET"!

I think the people who know me from here can guess what happened next, and it happened at lightning speed. At least I can be sure that nic probably has a lot of experience at losing friends.
Nicky, I think it might be time for another “vacation”. You remember the last one, right? Not enough people read your Spelunky thread, so you threw an epic “delete my account” tantrum and stormed off. Maybe I should call it a "rant" instead of a "tantrum". Either way, if at first you don’t succeed, try, try again. This would be the part where I’d tell you not to track your shit onto my Facebook page again, but, thankfully, that's not something I'll ever have to worry about.

http://www.pinballnirvana.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7248&highlight=spelunky

 

[Isaac Sauvage]

all that over a small tweak, justly earned? methinks i hit a nerve.

in any case, i don't have a problem with however you chose to respond. i would of course appreciate it if you did not share my name or accts from other sites. phishing and ID acquisition is a growing problem, you know.

btw, "another day, another dollar" was the riff in question.

 

[LeeVanCleef]

all that over a small tweak, justly earned? methinks i hit a nerve.

Yeah, I guess you could say that. Dragging your personal PN baggage onto my Facebook page was definitely nerve-hitting. You're a real class-act, pal.

PS: Your "riff" doesn't make any sense. Like so many of your posts. It should read "another day, another Dalai Lama impersonator". That doesn't make any sense, either, but at least it's worded correctly. As far as sharing your name or accounts online, I must apologize. I'll transfer you to our IT Department. I don't have any "hold" music, so just read the following over and over again while you wait:

Fools' names and fools' faces always appear in public places.

 

[LeeVanCleef]

Hey, nic, while I've got your attention, there's something I've wanted to know for a long time. I've seen a lot of idiots over the years make their "grand pronouncements" about how they're leaving VP and never coming back, as if anyone really cares but themselves. I've seen just as many, who, like you, crawled back after their Final Exit. Tell me, what's that like? I mean, do you have a sense of shame in publically making a fool of yourself or is it just more moondust off of Hitler's moustache? Oh, that's my "riff" on "water off a duck's back".

 

[Isaac Sauvage]

Yeah, I guess you could say that. Dragging your personal PN baggage onto my Facebook page was definitely nerve-hitting. You're a real class-act, pal.

well, i'm sorry. it seemed like a fairly playful comment, and hardly 'baggage' of one type or another.

i don't really understand your reaction, but i'm sorry for upsetting you.

Hey, nic, while I've got your attention, there's something I've wanted to know for a long time. I've seen a lot of idiots over the years make their "grand pronouncements" about how they're leaving VP and never coming back, as if anyone really cares but themselves. I've seen just as many, who, like you, crawled back after their Final Exit. Tell me, what's that like? I mean, do you have a sense of shame in publically making a fool of yourself or is it just more moondust off of Hitler's moustache? Oh, that's my "riff" on "water off a duck's back".

i agree my overreaction was foolish, but i was away for years before finally coming back. i think it was around the time my dad was sick or had passed, and i was probably lonely for some people i remembered.

i get the feeling you are upset about more than just the FB tweak. mind sharing what it is?

 

[GSGregg]

...since that movie where Spock brings home the stray whales!

From Star Trek The Voyage Home: (Spock) "Gracie is pregnant."

From the cutting room floor: "...So much for exhibiting the first Cetacean Eunuch....."

 

[LeeVanCleef]

Love to. Although I think you're the only person reading this thread who didn't get it the first time and wants to hear it again. You were beating on me like the family mule every time you showed up in this thread because I don't like George Martin's horrible stereo mixes. I attempted to treat it good-naturedly, because we were having so much fun chatting and swapping music. Then, for the briefest of moments, you stopped with the passive-aggressive gobbledy-gook so that I could understand what you were bitching about. I explained in very clear terms how I felt and where I was coming from. Then there was the second post about how I violated the "tone" you set. Again, in the clearest possible way I know how, I showed you that you were incorrect in many of your assumptions and clearly explained how I was taking offense to some of the words you used. Then you scampered away. During that time, I came to the realization that, of the tiniest places on the internet, PN would probably win the prize for "most tiniest". A billion Chinese don't give a shit about what you think of George Martin or what I think of George Martin and it was pointless to argue about it any more. Then you popped up again, and I was dumb enough to think you were trying to make nice. But no. You wanted to drag your bullshit over to my Facebook page where my friends and family could see that I pal around with an insensitive asshole. You know that part in Godfather II where Michael goes apeshit on Frankie Pantangeli after assassins shoot up his Tahoe bedroom? "In MY HOUSE! WHERE MY WIFE SLEEPS! And my children play with their toys!" That's how I felt when you decided to show how little tact you have by making this a Facebook issue. At the very least, you have shown that the trust I showed by allowing someone I met on the internet onto my Facebook page was a big mistake.
Well, there you have it, nic. A whole recap of what went on in this thread. I sure hope it makes a little more sense this time because, so far, interacting with you in this thread has been like trying to teach a monkey to read a comic book; it's been an incredibly frustrating experience and I just can't get you to stop throwing your own feces.

 

[LeeVanCleef]

From Star Trek The Voyage Home: (Spock) "Gracie is pregnant."

From the cutting room floor: "...So much for exhibiting the first Cetacean Eunuch....."

LOL! Ye gads, who would be the vet to perform that operation?

 

[Isaac Sauvage]

on the contrary, bill, my recent confusion and experience has been like this--

a month or so ago you sent me a PM profusely apologising for something or other which i had no memory of. i recently noticed it, replied, and you seemed to want to play coy about sharing what the hell was going on. okay, fine... just another internet mystery, right?

then in this thread, previously knowing that i enjoy the beatles (and being refreshed in that fact by the very first post), you proceed to turn it into a slagfest on a rather legendary figure who had just passed. obviously everyone's got their opinion, but you seemed to be going for a crucifixion. it did not seem to matter to you that i didn't appreciate it. this was in turn frustrating and incomprehensible to me, since i had thought of our past interactions to be friendly and pretty low-key.

in fact i thought your behavior at the time to be pretty f-cking rude and obnoxious. because... i don't give a shit how small PN is. if we're all friendly here, then why knowingly slag off what we know another person feels warmly about? this goes beyond just sharing your extensive opinions, which i don't mean to disrespect. i mean if you don't like george martin, then good for you and too bad for me. but you're not the LAST word on someone just because you have a strong opinion on them. not to me.

so yeah, i stepped away for a little while to get some air, true. problem?

and i can at least partly understand why you would get so upset about one FB comment, but i can't take it back now and i already apologised for it.

so you are giving me a proper shit storm of insults, belittlements and grandiosity. meanwhile you talk about "class" and you talk about "being passive aggressive."

okay then. i guess we're back to the pacdude days. happy?

 

[LeeVanCleef]

And for the record... leaving behind all the niceties I did show in this thread... George Martin was the luckiest goddamned knob-twiddler in the history of music. He was nothing but a studio hack whose previous experience before The Beatles had been holding a microphone up to Peter Sellars' mouth. That must have been a tough job for a producer! The reason you didn't hear of anything he did after The Beatles broke up, outside of records done by ex-Beatles is because he was a hack. One who didn't even see stereo coming. George Martin was the equivalent of the guy on the side of the road scooping up his horse's shit as a Model-T speeds by and every other 1960s record producer honks and waves at him. Arne, I apologize in advance because I know you're a fan. And I can clearly understand why people think of him in a different fashion than I do. Thinking this doesn't make me love "Got to Get You Into My Life" any less or make my opinion in this thread any less valid or "proper" than yours, nic. But I sure am sick and tired of having feces thrown at me when I was really trying hard to be nice in the first place! So, stuff it, nic! This is the internet! Wading through passive-aggressive bullshit is what I do in real life!

 

[Isaac Sauvage]

please. ONE miserable comment is 'throwing feces at you' after you'd pretty much been a nonstop asshole about martin?

well, shit... i suspect that you're in fact the one who needs a vacation, bill.

either that or you've picked up on a lot more from your job than you probably realise.

 

[LeeVanCleef]

on the contrary, bill, my recent confusion and experience has been like this--

a month or so ago you sent me a PM profusely apologising for something or other which i had no memory of. i recently noticed it, replied, and you seemed to want to play coy about sharing what the hell was going on. okay, fine... just another internet mystery, right?

then in this thread, previously knowing that i enjoy the beatles (and being refreshed in that fact by the very first post), you proceed to turn it into a slagfest on a rather legendary figure who had just passed. obviously everyone's got their opinion, but you seemed to be going for a crucifixion. it did not seem to matter to you that i didn't appreciate it. this was in turn frustrating and incomprehensible to me, since i had thought of our past interactions to be friendly and pretty low-key.

in fact i thought your behavior at the time to be pretty f-cking rude and obnoxious. because... i don't give a shit how small PN is. if we're all friendly here, then why knowingly slag off what we know another person feels warmly about? this goes beyond just sharing your extensive opinions, which i don't mean to disrespect. i mean if you don't like george martin, then good for you and too bad for me. but you're not the LAST word on someone just because you have a strong opinion on them. not to me.

so yeah, i stepped away for a little while to get some air, true. problem?

and i can at least partly understand why you would get so upset about one FB comment, but i can't take it back now and i already apologised for it.

so you are giving me a proper shit storm of insults, belittlements and grandiosity. meanwhile you talk about "class" and you talk about "being passive aggressive."

okay then. i guess we're back to the pacdude days. happy?

Oh, so you stepped away, got some air and decided to come back here and start up more shit with your stupid Dalai Lama babbling... then decided that wasn't getting the response you wanted and you headed over to Facebook. Well, at least we can both agree that you did something stupid there.
This ain't the Pacdude days. I never thought Pacdude was a friend of mine. But while we're bringing up past members, I would like to know this: in that brief time between when you wrote that sentence on my Facebook page and when you pressed the "Enter" key, did the thought "Oh my god... I'm Shockman!" flash across the ol' brain-pan?

 

[LeeVanCleef]

either that or you've picked up on a lot more from your job than you probably realise.

Trust me, buddy... I think the same about you. Deep issues and a bad sense of boundaries.


Whew! I'll say one thing, nic... I made damn sure you learned the definition of "rant", didn't I? Thank you for allowing me to continue your education.

 

[Isaac Sauvage]

yeah, i had teased you before on FB, calling you an asshole and stuff, and you had in turn given it right back to me. that's how i thought -that- worked. that's what i think of as pretty standard bro fare with the bros i know.

what i obviously did not comprehend this time is that you seem to think of yourself as some type of kindly expert on all things ass-holey about george martin, patiently willing to 'educate' me on the errors of my opinions, even if it involves lots of frustration and hostility built up on your part.

last night i thought to myself "okay, this dude has probably realised by now that he kind of went over the mark on this stuff. i'm guessing we can go back to our more tweak-some past."

and i was wrong.

 

[LeeVanCleef]

what i obviously did not comprehend this time is that you seem to think of yourself as some type of kindly expert on all things ass-holey about george martin, patiently willing to 'educate' me on the errors of my opinions, even if it involves lots of frustration and hostility built up on your part.

All right, numbnuts, you win... "kindly expert on all things ass-holey about george martin" is pretty fucking funny. I know a lot about George Martin. I'm a motherfucking expert at ranting. Now you'll know the difference. What you posted on Facebook didn't look like a joke, considering just how you left issues here when you scooted off. Smilies are your friends! I'll take down the image. I guess it will be up to those one billion Chinese to decide what horrible thing you said about me on there.