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Actually I think those are the same thing, as far as I can tell, the name was just changed somewhere along the line from modertor guidelines to staff guidelines, makes sense as the later covers all the staff, perhaps we need to update it, I think consultants should be in there to. ;)

VPForums Staff Guidelines

The following guidelines apply evenly to all staff members, irrelevant of the position of said staff member (ie: Admin, SuperMod or Moderator)

http://www.vpforums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28441&highlight=Moderator+guidelines
 
Steve that's in the staff forum :)
 
TheManFromPOST said:
bob, the staff guidelines were posted publicly
you just did not look very hard
http://www.vpforums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28523

Thanks TMFP, I didn't want to quote them if they were never released.

Things to consider:
True, this forum is about Pinball and not about free speech. However consider it is not about robots playing pinball. Humans are fallible creatures who need to express themselves. Sometimes, in doing so, members will sometimes go farther than our guidelines permit. Consider that all members are from different social and geographical backgrounds and therefore express themselves in various ways that may not comply with our “family friendly†site, or even with your own standards. That does not make these members evil. Some get caught up in the moment; others do not understand our guidelines. It is our job to educate these members when the line is crossed, and not just punish. If said action continues, then of course appropriate D/A action is acceptable. Please consider this when issuing PM’s, warnings and D/A’s.

When encountering a thread that breaks our guidelines:

There are several possible options on our part, each dependent on the severity of the content of the posts/thread. For all options, do not delete the post/thread! Explanation noted below.

- Edit the post accordingly and add a comment within the post explaining the edit, identifying yourself in the process. Remember that although editing the post in question adds your name and date in the post, if the member re-edits it, the post will not signify you had edited it as it reflects the author and time of the last edit. Notify the rest of the staff of said edit by posting a thread in the staff forum.

- Threads requiring action: Whenever possible, provide a warning in a thread to “settle down†if discussion becomes too heated. I say “whenever possible†because with porn, warez, etc., there is no hesitation; the thread/post in question must be moved to the staff forums, with the relevant warning issued and communicated. However, if you are unsure of the legalities of a particular thread, don’t hesitate to move it to the Staff Archive and inform the staff to look into it. It’s always better to be safe then sorry. When doing so, please do not forget to inform the relevant author of the thread movement, explaining we’re looking into it and if possible, will move the thread back ASAP, as long as it does not pose a threat to our forums.

- For threads that do not settle down, give 2 more warnings, edit and communicate if appropriate. If this persists, lock the thread for a period of 24 hours, include a last post explaining the reasons why you are doing so and that it will be re-opened if all concerned cool down, and of course communicate this to the rest of the staff via a message in the staff forums. If when reopening the thread things escalate further, then close the thread again indicating it is closed until further notice and under review by the admins. The admins will determine if the thread is moved to the staff forums or if through efforts on all parties can be reopened with an understanding that discussions will be civil.

- Typically, a thread is not moved to the archives unless its expired (no activity for 3 months) or due to the thread starter posting an inappropriate subject/comment (moved to staff archive). As well, an unacceptable post within a valid thread will usually receive an edit instead of removal of the said valid thread. However, if a condition occurs that does validate the removal of the thread even though the thread owner did not err in any way, please communicate the thread move to the author in question.

Now here comes my bitch.... Either delete them or follow them. I hate locked threads and you did it again. I know we've discussed it privately and you know it drove me bananas. If you don't feel like a thread is worth moderating, then leave it go, but locking it before moderation is just unacceptable to me and the Staff Guidelines.
 
Oh well like I said to TMFP earlier, we are better then spiderman, with tiny powers comes absurd responsibilities. :spiderman:

As for your bitch bob, how about we remember these are guidelines not friggin laws, written in stone FFS....

I'm sure TMFP was doing his best, how about you?
 
Also bob I suggest you give those guidelines a good read yourself, as a consultant you are part of the staff and they apply to you also.
 
I only consult, I have no vote, I have no powers.... Basically, I'm an observer of the staff, technically I'm not on the staff or you'd have to say that there are some strange people still on staff there. None of that changes the fact that I don't like locked threads.
 
Just because you think yourself powerless does not mean you are not part of the staff because you are and are privy to the staff forums, use them next time.

Standards of conduct for all staff:

- Be professional at all times
- Be courteous
- Be friendly
- Be helpful
- Above all, be patient!
 
StevOz said:
Just because you think yourself powerless does not mean you are not part of the staff because you are and are privy to the staff forums.

Standards of conduct for all staff:

- Be professional at all times
- Be courteous
- Be friendly
- Be helpful
- Above all, be patient!

Now when hasn't Bob been all the the above and more. Maybe all forum staffs everywhere should add Bob's best quality to their requirements, Be a smart aleck and a jokester.

John
 
Well generally speaking I think bob is great, though in this instance I would say he failed at all of the above.

We could create a consultant group within this forum software, if your really interested and I do recall bob volunteering at one stage. ;)
 
StevOz said:
Just because you think yourself powerless does not mean you are not part of the staff because you are and are privy to the staff forums, use them next time.

Standards of conduct for all staff:

- Be professional at all times
- Be courteous
- Be friendly
- Be helpful
- Above all, be patient!

I'm only privvy to the staff forums because Nic wanted me around and placed me there as a consultant. I do not post or share anything that is said in the Staff Forums. I am not technically part of the staff, in my opinion. Even if I was, it has nothing to do with this. I basically quit the staff because I couldn't handle locking threads and archiving them (public knowledge.) Do you really think my opinion on this issue will ever change? If any VPF admin wants to change my status, they are more than welcome to as I am a fruitcake, but I am a fairly consistent one in the fact that I'm more fruity than nuts. Besides, how often can I mention something privately before I finally just give up? My original comment on locking threads still holds true.... Either change the Staff Guidelines or follow them.
 
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As an outsider, I'd have to say that it doesn't always seem to me that the rules at vpf are evenly applied. There may be good reason for that, but since nothing is made public it's hard to understand a lot that goes on over there.

John
 
Bob, check your PM box
 
StevOz said:
with tiny powers comes absurd responsibilities. :spiderman:
steve you made me spit my beer against the wall and LMAO, god damn you. [quote of the month there IMO]

as for consultants? i always thought they were neutral observers/advisors to the staff, but WTF do i know?

hey, this place is fun. :)
 
You all ripped my thread. Junk Yard is a Williams pinball table. :joker: :swords: :rof: (just discovered the smilies) :geekdance:
 
nicolas.b said:
StevOz said:
with tiny powers comes absurd responsibilities. :spiderman:
steve you made me spit my beer against the wall and LMAO, god damn you. [quote of the month there IMO]

as for consultants? i always thought they were neutral observers/advisors to the staff, but WTF do i know?

hey, this place is fun. :)

Wait till you see what's next nic.Hhot buttered popcorn, danish every morning, and if you know the secret word of the day, donuts and hot cocoa next to the hot tub.

John
 
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