Patty Duke is gone

[sleepy]

A very long Winter this year.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...r-child-star-patty-duke-dies-age-69/82382666/

 

[Isaac Sauvage]

i've said before that she was kind of an all-american, girl-next-door-cutie to me, but she was really a lot more than that, i think.

patty went through a hell of depression, substance and alcohol abuse and was willing to come clean about it. that's not easy or common.

the paternity of her famous son sean astin is STILL being debated.

her film with anne bancroft (sp?) about helen keller's life was one of the most moving and uplifting films i've ever seen. i think they showed that to us around fifth grade or so. that was a LOT for us kids to absorb, at the time.

<3 patty duke.

 

[sleepy]

As a cleft palate, I related to the Hellen Keller story quite well when I was seven in '61. Such disadvantages may have a way of inspiring many a fine tale. What I could never justify are those who can speak taking advantage of those of us who have no voice. Those who do so may explain that, "it is the way they do things".

 

[GSGregg]

Small World (We are / were 53 days from being the same age);

After the usual holiday food binge over Xmas 2014, I experienced indigestion (food poisoning?) the evening of Dec 27th (no problem; a little self-induced vomiting always cleared it up) and decided to ride it out. A few hours later, it hadn't gone away and I decided to grab some sleep, skipping the chance to drive myself thirty miles to the VA Hospital while I still could. When I woke up Sunday the 28th, driving ANYwhere would have been iffy, and my across-the-street neighbor was available to take me to Arcadia Methodist Emergency, where I sat from 10AM to well after 5PM before the processing and tests were completed, at which time my symptoms were over 20 hours old, and I was wheeled in for the resection of my perforated colon (WTF---I'm not a sword-swallower!) and attendant dealing with approx 1.5 liters of blood (about 2/3rds of it 'old', however they determine that) and intestinal fluids being where they shouldn't. Septic? Yeah.

Anyway, with post-op respiratory failure added to the chart and about 15 pounds dropped between then and Jan. 15th when I was released, I am able to acknowledge that things could be worse; I'm still alive, and I don't have to wear and deal with a bag. My main point is that I had someone willing and able to help; how screwed for Anna / Patty that she apparently couldn't find herself in the same situation.


GSG

 

[sleepy]

The hospitals and clinics in Los Angeles Are A REAL BITCH. The wait times are deplorable.
There are horror stories about patients who waited in the hallways of the public hospitals for over 10 hours and Died while still waiting for help at the hospital.

 

[Isaac Sauvage]

did she in fact pass away while waiting for care? yow...

 

[GSGregg]

I haven't sought that info, but those details haven't been on the news reports I've seen.

 

[sleepy]

I don't know about Patty. I think she was in Idaho. Still have to wonder how the sepsis became fatal. Maybe she ignored it? Else the doctors did?

 

[Isaac Sauvage]

i read an article a couple hours ago that sounded like patty's situation went much like my mom's-- i.e. perforated colon and critical operation that just didn't work out in the end. (actually it was medical incompetence at a palliative care facility that brought my mom down, not the primary operation or hospital workers)

anyway, i think it was sean himself (or maybe sean and someone else) who talked about how many dire conditions patty was battling at the end.

i don't want to talk out my ass at the moment, but i have the impression that patty early-on became sort of the family mule, like tuesday weld and some of the little rascals / our gang kids. i mean, the pressure to be the wage-earner of the family is something i'm grateful never to have experienced.

 

[sleepy]

Did you seek legal advice due to the malpractice? My Mom ended up with dehydration and Stage IV bedsores all the way to the bone. The doctors and rehab center ignored it.
She was misdiagnosed, given countermedications, and when she Screamed in agony due to A Superbug Infection and those holes in her backside, the rehab doc called us to seek permission to sedate her to shut her up because "her screaming was disturbing the other patients". A Lawyer is now looking at a fat settlement, and I believe it will be.
At least for him. Mom is still hanging in there. But those holes are still healing almost one year later. She was also diagnosed "with dementia", this on dehydration. But due to the presense of heart arrhythmia, I suspect the docs haven't been allowing her any fats or oils. A deficiency of Essential Fatty Acids can easily result in dementia/Alzheimers. I'm wondering about good Lipids. Has she got any?

The wage earner? Yeah. I read a Good description of those terms last night. Very Familiar. I believe the locals are exercising 9/10ths of this list, and considering the rest just to have something to do. But I am not fault-finding. I know most of these terms by their behavior.

http://onlinecounsellingcollege.tum...0-traits-of-people-with-personality-disorders

 

[sleepy]

Just wonderin'.
If you spent your life surrounded by clandestine family who masked their artistic skills so that you never really knew them, and while living "on the outside", one day while goofing around, talking to yourself, whatever, you say or sing something aloud. But then you immediately recognize that you have sounded in a famous voice without any intent or effort to mimic that personality. The sound comes naturally to you.

What would you make of it? Would you suspect that you might be related to that person? Remember, you know that your family has been masking their show biz connections, and that you may not have met all of them personally.

 

[Isaac Sauvage]

Did you seek legal advice due to the malpractice? My Mom ended up with dehydration and Stage IV bedsores all the way to the bone. The doctors and rehab center ignored it.
She was misdiagnosed, given countermedications, and when she Screamed in agony due to A Superbug Infection and those holes in her backside, the rehab doc called us to seek permission to sedate her to shut her up because "her screaming was disturbing the other patients". A Lawyer is now looking at a fat settlement, and I believe it will be.
At least for him. Mom is still hanging in there. But those holes are still healing almost one year later. She was also diagnosed "with dementia", this on dehydration. But due to the presense of heart arrhythmia, I suspect the docs haven't been allowing her any fats or oils. A deficiency of Essential Fatty Acids can easily result in dementia/Alzheimers. I'm wondering about good Lipids. Has she got any?

The wage earner? Yeah. I read a Good description of those terms last night. Very Familiar. I believe the locals are exercising 9/10ths of this list, and considering the rest just to have something to do. But I am not fault-finding. I know most of these terms by their behavior.

http://onlinecounsellingcollege.tum...0-traits-of-people-with-personality-disorders

sorry to hear all that.

my aunt and i looked in to legal action. it sounded like we had a pretty decent case, especially since there was a whistle-blower figure who came forward voluntarily. we also met with the doctor who made the (arguably) poor decision on her and i did grill him pretty good.

unfortunately me stepfather was kind of a wreck at that time and not at all on board with helping out on the case. i really needed his willpower on this, since my aunt had to fly back home. but apparently this is often what happens when families are victims of a potential malpractice death-- their grief is too great just when they need to be 'professionally angry and organised.'

there's also the fact that my dad was a doctor and i have a lot of sympathy for how much shit they tend to get and how hard the job is these days.

...

that's an interesting list. it reminds me a little of 'the big roundup of cognitive biases.' i doubt there is a person alive who doesn't check some boxes on these kinds of lists... therefore i think it's in our own best interests to learn where our blind spots are so to speak, to become better at managing them and self-adjusting.

of course it's hard work and not a lot of people i know are particularly interested in that. "life is too short to find fault with yourself, they might say."

 

[sleepy]

I normally don't bother with fault-finding and I never talk for sympathy or fame. Only to get an idea of what people who have no conflict of interest have to say. Ah, if it weren't for the "approval system" that our societies breed for the benefit of the few on top,
I have one simple rule. And that is, the proposition is Stable and/or stable to me. Or it's not. Like the time I was called to work at Cadillac Plastics in North Hollywood. They kept their stocks on two-story shelves. They had no ladders. No retainers or fences up there. No safety setup.
They had a forklift on a rocky uneven chipped concrete floor with a blackened rotting wood palatte on the fork. To sort or pick stock from the second story, they wanted me to stand on the rotting palatte while the operator lifted me up there, the forklift rocking and swaying to every bump in the old floor. I took one look. Not Stable. I walked away.

The reason I vent about the locals around here is because they are communicating silently with reprisals against common Rights. They started mean without a Hello and kept going, taking full advantage in the worst ways possible.

Yes, I empathize with good doctors and nurses. But not due to Stage IV holes, Superbug infections, or lazy incompetence. I questioned the doc about why Mom was just laying there on Warfarin. He became arrogant without an answer. All he could manage was "Because I Am THE DOCTOR". A Pulmonary dude ignoring PUFA and normal dietary standards.

 

[Isaac Sauvage]

i've collected some pretty good stories the past month or two about insider situations with doctors and other professionals. i can try to round up some goodies for you if interested.

what i recall reading a lot is that doctors can indeed be arrogant, sanctimonious a-holes behind the scenes. i.e., treating nurses and supporting staff like shit, and so forth.

i don't think i ever really understand that from my rounds with dad, because he tended to be friendly with everyone at the facilities he worked at. see, he made a point of taking each of his sons with him to work every once in a while, even in to examining rooms. my most embarrassing moment was probably when he gave a rectal examination to a middle-aged african-american gentleman. i paid a lot of attention to various charts on the walls, that day.

 

[Isaac Sauvage]

will patty figure it out??

1989 - Promo - The Patty Duke Show - Tell me Mama what to do... - YouTube