ball goes through walls

[pinhead1]

i have a lot of old tables from pre 2010 at IRPinball.org.
some go back as far as 03.
at that time i used 907-912 to rotate for FS.
most rotated and play fine in any VP9 DTexec.
i have one table that is real old from 05 that has a problem with the ball going through walls.
i tried using the editor to make the changes for that wall.
it's the wall after the ball launch.
it is a non-pinmame, no ROM and easy to load and play.
put the table in a folder and use any VP9 DTexec.
the ball goes through the wall then bounces around between the wall and the bumper.
it might even go through more walls but it gets stuck in the wall to the upper table.
could someone take a look at it?
the table is Billion Dollar Game show in https://www.irpinball.org/pcgames.htm

https://www.irpinball.org/screenshots/BillionDollarGameshow_g.jpg

thanks.

 

[xenonph]

i have a lot of old tables from pre 2010 at IRPinball.org.
some go back as far as 03.
at that time i used 907-912 to rotate for FS.
most rotated and play fine in any VP9 DTexec.
i have one table that is real old from 05 that has a problem with the ball going through walls.
i tried using the editor to make the changes for that wall.
it's the wall after the ball launch.
it has no ROM and easy to load and play.
put the table in a folder and use any VP9 DTexec.
the ball goes through the wall then bounces around between the wall and the bumper.
it might even go through more walls but it gets stuck in the wall after the ball launch to the upper table.
could someone take a look at it?
the table is Billion Dollar Game show in https://www.irpinball.org/pcgames.htm

https://www.irpinball.org/screenshots/BillionDollarGameshow_g.jpg

thanks.

Most of those older tables will only work with the older VP exes.
Try playing it with VP6.exe.
Find here...

Support File - Visual Pinball 6 OLD (No Expire) and Visual Pinball 6.1 Update (Expired)

Visual Pinball 6 OLD (No Expire) v12-17-2002 and Visual Pinball 6.1 Update (Expired) v11-23-2004 Added new VP6.exe that doesn't expire. So now you can play the very old VP tables! What are you waiting for!! Here is a table that needs VP6 to run...

pinballnirvana.com

Download the one that says no expire. The other is expired version, and is only there for archival preservation.
Place it in same folder as your other VP.exes. Run it from there.
You will find running these older tables with the VP6.exe fixes alot of things, including visuals.

 

[pinhead1]

Most of those older tables will only work with the older VP exes.
Try playing it with VP6.exe.
Find here...

Support File - Visual Pinball 6 OLD (No Expire) and Visual Pinball 6.1 Update (Expired)

Visual Pinball 6 OLD (No Expire) v12-17-2002 and Visual Pinball 6.1 Update (Expired) v11-23-2004 Added new VP6.exe that doesn't expire. So now you can play the very old VP tables! What are you waiting for!! Here is a table that needs VP6 to run...

pinballnirvana.com

Download the one that says no expire. The other is expired version, and is only there for archival preservation.
Place it in same folder as your other VP.exes. Run it from there.
You will find running these older tables with the VP6.exe fixes alot of things, including visuals.

well, i used the 907 and 912 because they rotate for FS.
VP6 is real old. it might not allow for a rotate for FS.
vp8 did not have the backdrop for FS.
VP9 was the first DTexec of for FS.
before i DL will VP6 will rotate for FS?

 

[xenonph]

It will not rotate. But the table will not play correctly without it.

 

[pinhead1]

It will not rotate. But the table will not play correctly without it.

yeah, the table is super old.
i knew it would be something like that.
maybe you or some one here can update it in a VP9DTexec?
you know how to do it.

 

[xenonph]

yeah, the table is super old.
i knew it would be something like that.
maybe you or some one here can update it in a VP9DTexec?
you know how to do it.

Try clicking on the ramp shown in pic (Ramp9), and click Position, and change the Bottom Height of that ramp from 40, to 50.
VP9 I think uses a bigger ball (size 50 I believe), and that ramp is getting in the way when Bottom Height is set at 40.
This is just one of many changes you will have to make, to line the ramps up.

 

[xenonph]

Next click Ramp12 and change Bottom Height to -10. Now the ball will go around the loop when plunged.

 

[pinhead1]

xeno#7
no, that did not work.
ill keep on it.
is there a tutorial on how to update an old table to vp9xx?

 

[xenonph]

xeno#7
no, that did not work.
ill keep on it.
is there a tutorial on how to update an old table to vp9xx?

It worked for me after adjusting those 2 ramps. I was able to hit the loop from plunge of ball.

I am not aware of any tutorials on how to update an old table to VP9.
I am guessing it is not easy, or there would be alot more of these older tables converted to VP9 FS.

 

[pinhead1]

i logged in to find the "billion dollar game show"
the only one i found was FP and no DL button
is there a vp8 or vp9 i can DL?

 

[xenonph]

IRPinball site has VP version, but it is old version.

https://www.irpinball.org/pcgames.htm

 

[pinhead1]

IRPinball site has VP version, but it is old version.

https://www.irpinball.org/pcgames.htm

thats the one i have.
the newer version is FP.
i dont have FP in my VP yet.
same FP version at VPforums.

 

[xenonph]

I do not know of any other VP8 or VP9 versions.
There is a Future Pinball conversion here that does have a download button.

SS - Recreation Video Games - FP - Pinball Fantasies : Billion Dollar Gameshow (Digital Illusions CE, 1992)

by Jerry Winter, Sebek74, Slash2084 at 2012-07-22 Type Recreation (videogame) Editor Digital Illusions CE (1988-2004) Date 1992 Description Remake of classic table from Pinball Fantasies game by Digital Illusions released...

pinballnirvana.com

You should try installing Future Pinball on your setup.
There is a BAM-FP 2 in 1 Installer that installs everything you need.
Find here...

ravarcade.pl - BAM - Future Pinball Mod

Future Pinball BAM VR Cabinet

www.ravarcade.pl

 

[pinhead1]

ok, i reviewed your table suggestions again.
i know about raising objects for conversion to vp9.
what i didn't get is why the ball was going into the wall and bouncing around in the wall and the pop bumper.
i expected the ball to get stuck in lanes and under ramps after converting to VPFS. ... not go into the wall
i had an idea that maybe the program was not compatibity to VP9 because the table was so old from 05.
it seems to be ok now.
it was late last night and i was tired.
thanks.....