I understand it's how I react to these confrontations, but you have to understand that it is the fact just as well that these confrontations come up. If it did not work. exactly as described, there would be no point in executing a campaign to get anyone they could to believe otherwise. There would be no one to convince. So the point in doing so is something else. There could possibly be no point in going off the wall with remarks like it is instant, it does not simulate a gravity action that snaps flippers back in real life machines, or especially the personal things like it should be taken out of VP8. That has been tried, and not without admins. support either, and it was not let to continue by the membership that relied on it. It is also, as should be pointed out, something that works automatically, but also something that can be over-ridden and is automatically over-ridden by anyone, even if they are unaware, that sets the speeds themselves, which is just as doable as it is in the core, and rightly over-rides the code in the core.
How could something that is this used and appreciated and non intrusive as this, being that it has no assertion when preferred settings are used be something that should be taken out. And why would people that do not even use VP8 anymore be leading the campaign to have it at least accepted that it would not be a bad thing, or have any effect to be taken out. Not only what would have them say such things, but what would have them thinking these things. It pretending that they have no understanding at best, though actually best if they actually didn't have any understanding, which I don't believe they don't. I believe they do understand this. I could not think they understood one of VP's most basic axioms though and think that these remarks were anything other than an a personal attack. One that came without provocation. It was also stated that VP8 was dead, but it does not mean that it should be stripped of function.
Likewise the keyboard nudge function. The response to that was just as off the wall. A great many people then and even now were not saying that they wanted someones else's definition of realistic nudge action in VP9 for a key press. It was said that the code exists in a keystroke routine in previous, all previous versions of VP that worked good enough. The response to that was VP9's keyboard function is better than VP8's ever was. It too wen off the wall to include statements like the ball rolling up the screen when bumping, and even being able to drive the ball with nudging was realistic. Likewise this is impossible to believe from anyone with an understanding of or experience with real pinball games.
Could you imagine if it was me saying these things, instead of the things I was saying Bob? Assuming that they actually knew better? That stuff would have no longer been 'opinion' but again harassment.
These people are not idiots. Not really. There is another driving force that would have them on this farce.
Imagine too if I was the one attacking them, their contributions with issues that has no base in fact, but were meant only to incite. Would they then be characterized and opinions. When my opinions are not characterized as opinions attacks of that kind certainly would not be.
But the sad thing is not that these things happened is it. It's that I would respond to them. And they would play a game of non-understanding to have me repeat myself.
I have expressed that my hope was to be able to try out the new version of the tables and the VP program, and that I had no interest in the forums, because I no longer have anything on hand to contribute to them. Chatting I think as well that I should have because I never broke the rules of the chat. The forum I think I should have access to, because I did not break a single rule that was not broken from staff and some members to incite such a response, but I would let the forum go and the chat, because in a way, if he really wants to, can honestly say he has a right to do with or without reason. The work of the community I have always been a part of, thus a small part of the work that continues is harder for me to accept as a personal choice of anyone else. It would be impossible to take out my contributions, with out taking out many tables where I supplied graphics, techniques, programming help, or other support, not to mention the work around for the ball and flipper problem, which everyone I can think of besides one or two people says is actually better than loosing a ball, with all the faults it does have.
da Vinci could not and did not put anywhere near as much, in nearly as many hands as Jobs did. But I understand where you are coming from. Some of da Vinci's ideas were truly original, while Job's was the more human, next steps, expanding on existing ideas. Ideas do not equate to product all the time and is true of many of da Vinci's. At least not in his own life time, or the lives of his contemporaries. By the time some of his ideas came to be they were actually more related to the next step, expanding on existing ideas, discovery than to his original designs. This make his ideas more Prophesy than product.
