WIP Recreation Video Games BAM FP Space Cadet 3D v3.0

[Paolo]

There is no need to get too harsh. Paolo is trying. I don't think Paolo understands what collaborate means as he still has some difficulty with the English language.

Paolo,

Collaborate means you work together on the table some of like what you and GF used to do

I read it as if someone could help him fix the ramps and maybe make suggestions

George's answer was on another context!
Regarding what you read above, I was actually explaining that I replaced the Fp ramp with a 3D ramp model, and I was explaining that coordinating the textures on a 3D ramp model with milkshape is torture.That's why I created what you see in the video, the FP ramp with texture is fake, the 3D ramp is real, and it's the one that really works, except that it's invisible and is more fluid than FP, in the sense that the ball goes up the ramp much better .
What you read on page 22, concerns that context, which he(George) talks about in his answer above.

 

[Paolo]

HZR said:
I read it as if someone could help him fix the ramps and maybe make suggestions. He does get fired up easy because of the language barrier

In truth I get "fired up easy" if I had to eat a nice plate of oysters!!

 

[Paolo]

Ok,I spent a few hours updating SC3D, I added some graphics, added my customized GR with gif inserted, and added the sides and front inside the table always in gif.
This is the version with my "optimal physics", now I have to finalize the version with fizx ( time allow) and then I publish them in honor of Gianfranco, who created this masterpiece for Fp.

 

[Paolo]

Ok, let's see if I can get back to doing something on it, I remember it was almost ready.

 

[Paolo]

JpSalas, he was very kind to let me use the voice sounds, and I'm inserting them all, here's an example.

 

[GeorgeH]

Very cool!

 

[madmrmax]

Nice!

 

[Ulukeke]

Hello, IDK if it's the right thread but anyway... I'm been trying to run the Space Cadet 3D on FP, but it crashes just before starting. I have downloaded every version I found around, all of them from FranzLeo, there is a 1.0, a 2.0 and also a 3.0. Still no luck. I don't have many tables, but that's the only one crashing like this. I can open the table in the editor, when I try to start the game, it appears to load normally, the loading bar goes almost full, then I hear the background tune playing for like half second, and then crash. The BAM log reports some random access violation. Thanks for any help.

 

[GeorgeH]

Hello, IDK if it's the right thread but anyway... I'm been trying to run the Space Cadet 3D on FP, but it crashes just before starting. I have downloaded every version I found around, all of them from FranzLeo, there is a 1.0, a 2.0 and also a 3.0. Still no luck. I don't have many tables, but that's the only one crashing like this. I can open the table in the editor, when I try to start the game, it appears to load normally, the loading bar goes almost full, then I hear the background tune playing for like half second, and then crash. The BAM log reports some random access violation. Thanks for any help.

Are you using an AMD processor or have it installed in a cabinet?

 

[Ulukeke]

Are you using an AMD processor or have it installed in a cabinet?

Thanks for replying. No, I have an Intel processor on a regular laptop. And actually there is another table which has exactly that same behavior, it's another FranzLeo's table, SuperAndroid 2.0. On the other hand, CyborGirl runs perfectly. It looks like the tables are failing to load some resource, just a feeling though.

 

[GeorgeH]

Thanks for replying. No, I have an Intel processor on a regular laptop. And actually there is another table which has exactly that same behavior, it's another FranzLeo's table, SuperAndroid 2.0. On the other hand, CyborGirl runs perfectly. It looks like the tables are failing to load some resource, just a feeling though.

If your laptop has an integrated GPU built into the CPU chip, it may not always have enough resources to play some tables. I tried playing this table on my PC and had no problem. My PC has an Intel CPU with a dedicated Nvidea GPU.

You might try performing Steps 6, 9, and 12 of my guide linked below and it might help:

Support File - FP - George's Installation and Setup Guide for Future Pinball (Basic Guide)

Translate to French or Other Language Click on the link on the left and a new tab will open with this page translated into French. Click on the "To:" pull-down option to select a different language. Go Back to Main Page This "Basic Guide" will step you through the initial installation and...

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[Ulukeke]

If your laptop has an integrated GPU built into the CPU chip, it may not always have enough resources to play some tables. I tried playing this table on my PC and had no problem. My PC has an Intel CPU with a dedicated Nvidea GPU.

Could be. It's actually an integrated Iris Xe. However, some way heavier tables such as Star Wars DSA or Indiana Jones run like charm. Thus I'm been assuming that older or simpler tables should run as well. Maybe that isn't the case. I suppose that there's no way to figure out what's wrong. I even tried to delete the suole script, and to remove random stuff from the table. No change. Oh well. I'll play something else. There is a VPX version of Space Cadet, and it works on my PC, but I prefer FP so much... Thanks for your help anyway, and thanks for your great work on the tables

 

[GeorgeH]

Could be. It's actually an integrated Iris Xe. However, some way heavier tables such as Star Wars DSA or Indiana Jones run like charm. Thus I'm been assuming that older or simpler tables should run as well. Maybe that isn't the case. I suppose that there's no way to figure out what's wrong. I even tried to delete the suole script, and to remove random stuff from the table. No change. Oh well. I'll play something else. There is a VPX version of Space Cadet, and it works on my PC, but I prefer FP so much... Thanks for your help anyway, and thanks for your great work on the tables

It is interesting you like FP over VP. Most folks seem to like VP better and many used every opportunity to tell the world how much better it is.

I still think you should try performing Steps 6, 9, and 12 of my guide linked in my previous message.

 

[GeorgeH]

@Ulukeke

I think I found the specific cause of your problem. I looked in the script of Space Cadet and found many occurrences of "evaluate" and "eval" commands. You need to add an exclusion for Future Pinball on the real time protection of Microsoft Defender Antivirus. The issue usually causes stuttering but it can cause a crash. I describe the issue pretty clearly in the write up. I added this exclusion back in 2022 and have not been infected with any viruses because of it and forgot about it until just a few minutes ago. It is probably the reason I didn't have any problems playing the table earlier.

I discussed this in my guide that I previously linked but I also discussed many other things that you can try so this will save you some time.

Tutorial - FP - Exclude Future Pinball from Real Time Protection on Microsoft Defender Antivirus

In my FP installation guide, I identify that any FP script that uses "evaluate" and "eval" coding can cause a low frame rate or stuttering. The reason is that the real-time protection on Microsoft Defender Antivirus considers both "evaluate" and "eval" coding to be a potential security threat...

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[Ulukeke]

I was just reading your guide and tinkering with the video settings. I was also preparing myself mentally to fiddle with the Windows Defender settings, which I find a tedious task at best. But then... "Model Quality always needs to be set to High". Mine was set to Medium. Culprit found. Super Android works too. Cheers! Thanks again for your help, George! I'll read the whole FP guide, I promise :)