Well, Now Marijuana Causes Cancer, or So They Say.

[sleepy]

And nope. No matter the lightning, loss of fame due to age and declining audience attendance while the kids follow their own leaders. It ain't the power or the money. It's the rush of connecting to a living audience that is eventually in permanent decline. Remember, fame is not the same as being simply well-known. Fame is by result.

 

[Coil_Smoke]

Elvis Is Everywhere.

He IS Elvis

That would be confusing...To say the least.




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Costello at the 2012 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot_Fest" target="_blank">Riot Fest, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago" target="_blank">Chicago
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[LeeVanCleef]

WHAT?! Elvis was in Chicago a year and a half ago? *grumble* I still haven't made the two hour drive to the Windy City yet. It always seems like a good idea, until that "two-hour drive" part comes into play.
I have recently discovered some great "new" Elvis tracks. It's called Elvis at Stax, and collects the tracks he recorded at the legendary studio in the '70s. It kinda belies the fact that Elvis didn't do much of a damn after the From Elvis in Memphis album.

 

[StevOz]

So we went from Mary Jane to other drugs, a bit of lesbian, then Elvis, way to go guys. :)

Got to admit I really did get into those Elvis films when he was younger, thought they were great, well some of them.

Though got to say dragging Mary Jane into the war on drugs was the biggest strategy idiocy ever, nailed any chance of a win or cease fire just there and now Mary can flip her skirt in a few selected US states.

 

[Coil_Smoke]

I fully believe that the war on weed is the keystone of the destruction of America. This monstrous and evil persecution of innocence has caused so much damage. It has ruined the relationship between the police and the people. It has made a mockery of respect for the law and law's respect for the people. It has robbed millions of their jobs and right to work. It has created a new underclass forced to work for poverty level wages. It has robbed generations of their dignity. I pity the corruption and violence perpetrated here and in Central and South America. Nancy Reagan was right when she said "Just Say No"... She did not say "De-stabilize Society" "Spread Fear and Violence" or "Create A Police State In The World" Or "Build An Economy Based On Security Systems, Drug Testing And Prisons"

I apologize for waxing this heavy or deep. There is little light hearted about this grim situation. This prohibition may be being used by our true enemies to undermine our spirit of freedom and self determination. At The end of World War Two the Japanese warned us that they would destroy America and use our own system to do it. Is this what they meant? This is how societies rot from within. The current administrations drug policies are in a state of flux. Without the federal government moving weed off schedule I the paranoia will linger in the face of states rights.(Create schedule VI, FREEDOM) Our president has finally said something* that indicates the possibility of change. I hope we are finally seeing some light at the end of this century long tunnel.

*("Pot No Worse Than Alcohol")

 

[sleepy]

As long as "States Rights" are respective of the Rights of the People.
This is how the 10th Amendment of The Constitution states the case, and that is so States and Majorities are not superior to The People in the First Person.
Every nag on the block who opposes personal use is a Third Party, and by all rights, Third Parties are without the legal standing to attack anyone, their habits, etc.

 

[StevOz]

Whatever Sleepy, I know your government pays scant regard to your Constitution and goes against it time and again to the highest bidder, am I wrong or do you want me to dig up the facts of that matter? Never mind the whole war based economics that the US is all about?

 

[sleepy]

No, you are right StevOz. The power mad always do ignore the Rights.

 

[kristian]

I got some tapes from my dad when I was a kid (8-year old or something) and adored Eddie Cochran and Elvis. But then I saw "Blue Hawaii" and "GI Blues" and felt SO embarrassed for him (and me). :D

 

[Isaac Sauvage]

And nope. No matter the lightning, loss of fame due to age and declining audience attendance while the kids follow their own leaders. It ain't the power or the money. It's the rush of connecting to a living audience that is eventually in permanent decline. Remember, fame is not the same as being simply well-known. Fame is by result.

those are factors, and i would not disagree with them or discount them, but they're not the ONLY factors in my rational purview. nor from what i've read about the specific factors of fear and stress in elvis' decline.


@coily,
i would agree with all that (nicely said!), i'm just not sure about such being the keystone. to me, the fraud done to weed is just part of the larger issue of deliberately living unsustainably. but maybe we can buy an extra minute or two on the doomsday clock by completely legalising hemp... a miracle product IMO.


i wouldn't complain if the convo got steered back to lesbians, btw. :)

 

[Shockman]

Jodie Foster came out

 

[LeeVanCleef]

And then went back in. Or, actually, stuck her head out, pulled it back in and slammed the door. For the true destruction that the "war on drugs" has caused, I highly recommend this movie:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2125653/?ref_=nv_sr_1

It's on Netflix, maybe Hulu, hopefully for free somewhere online. It shows just how destructive mandatory possession sentences are. There's also one guy that starts making crazy allegations that, all of a sudden, start making sense. Like his claim that different "battles" in the war on drugs seem almost aimed at controlling different members of the social strata. Like how the war on crack sent so many African-Americans to jail. Now it's the war on meth and its own mandatory sentencing guidelines that are doing the same to lower-class whites.
Anyway, watch that movie! Me, I'm all of a sudden in the mood to burn one.

 

[StevOz]

Lesbians, well all of those I know or have known have swung both ways, usually the lesbian thing has either been experimentation, safe sex or due to having had really bad relationships with the men that were in their lives.

On the other cheek all the homosexual men I have known are just that and would never even consider a women as a sexual partner.

So I guess I've never really known any lesbians, I suppose they were all somewhat bi-sexual, although some never went back. Makes me wonder how many 'real' lesbians there are?

 

[Isaac Sauvage]

that's a proxy site, but loads of places are streaming it:

http://www.primewire.ag/watch-2737263-The-House-I-Live-In

 

[sleepy]

Embarrassed? Man, I remember seeing Blue Hawaii on the big screen at the Magnolia Theater in Burbank, Ca , 1961. It was playing with, "The Ladies' Man". I was only 7 years old.

My Parents took us to see those. I don't even know what for.

 

[Isaac Sauvage]

Embarrassed? Man, I remember seeing Blue Hawaii on the big screen at the Magnolia Theater in Burbank, Ca , 1961. It was playing with, "The Ladies' Man". I was only 7 years old.

My Parents took us to see those. I don't even know what for.

considering that your parents can randomly lounge from decorated jedi knights to doctor-evil types to absolute hollywood illuminati...

i would say hey! sleepy!

 

[sleepy]

All the same, Ike. We didn't go to the movies much at all. Blue Hawaii was one of only three shows that my parents took us to in 3 years time, the other two being, "Babes in Toyland", and "The Absent Minded Professor" at the drive-in. The only movie that my Mom ever took us to in all these years was, "Marry Poppins" in '65.

When we returned to Pennsylvania for about two years before then returning to California forever in 1964, my old man pretty much waited for the Buck-a-Carload nights on The Fourth of July with firewoks to take us to the drive-in, kinda like the door-to-door bootleg movie peddlers around here hawking copies of OSCAR screeners. My folks were never big movie goers. My old man was all about watching the local boxing from the Olympic Auditorium every Thursday night on Ch. 5 which was on opposite the CBS Thursday Night Movie, and flirting with Rhonda Fleming in my presence behind my Mom's back.

 

[Isaac Sauvage]

how about we form a club, brother?

 

[sleepy]

Hey, I just got back from the store. That's where I've been. Yeah.

Ike, would that be :

• The No-Movie Club
• The Disney Movie Club
• The Fight of the Week Club
• 
  ~or~
• The Rhonda Fleming Club

????

Curiously, my old man was flirting with Rhonda in Burbank in 1965, about the time of The Beach Boys single. But I liked the song.

 

[LeeVanCleef]

The first movie I remember seeing was an Elvis film that my mom took me to, must have been about 3 or 4. I remember it well, because there was a guy dressed up as a tiger and it scared the shit out of me! Do fucking tigers walk around on two legs and talk to people?!?! This has been a great four years here on spaceship Earth, but can I go back to where I came from? It was years before I discovered which Elvis movie it was. Even the Elvis biographies that deign to delve into the King's murky movie history usually don't go into enough detail to say "...and this is the movie with the guy dressed as a tiger." Finally, I saw it on TCM during a "King's birthday" salute. The movie was real! I didn't make it up! Now, of course, I have no idea which film it was. Maybe Girl Trouble? I will say I enjoyed it more as a four year old than as an adult.

 

[StevOz]

Going way back, well this was a hit for me back then...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063634/

Though I'm really brushing off the cobwebs from my grey matter, I really thought he was a very good actor and the singing and dancing as good as it was somewhat detracted from his acting abilities.

 

[sleepy]

I'm watching "Born Free" on the over-the-air/broadcast "Movies" subchannel (Sony/Paramount). This is the first time I've ever seen it, and I love it!

The very first first-run movie that I saw was back in Pennsylvania in 1956. My folks picked up my Grandmother, on my Mother's side, and somewhere in the frigid, bitter cold night, we put on our Winter coats and went to a drive-in with neon-Egyptian styling, and under that frigid, high-vaulted Pennsylvania night sky we watched "The Ten Commandments" and the parting of The Red Sea, a very famous scene lost to antiquity. I fell asleep in the middle of it, but woke up in time to see the escape of Baby Moses, lowered by maidens in a basket, floating downstream, and a man with a funny beard (King Herod, I think).

I was only two years old.

 

[LeeVanCleef]

Wichita was a city of pussies. The drive-ins all closed their seasons usually in October

 

[sleepy]

Given the frigid night,
they were right!

Hey, how about a Winter's night, round about Midnight,
kicking back an ice-cold Coke in four gulps?

 

[LeeVanCleef]

Jesus, that sounds delicious! Tell you what... it's gonna be -5 here tonight. I'm gonna step outside and give it a shot!