All In One Example Table - FizX, FLEEP, Ball Rolling, PUP SSF, DOF - Easy to add!

[Popotte]

Yes, for non FizX tables, you have to change the model of bumper and create a dummy trigger skirt...

 

[TerryRed]

What about the bumpers?

Same as it's always been for FizX. Just follow the new tutorial, table example and the video. They both show an example for older bumpers methods like EM kickers that need to be removed, and if the table has drop target skirt models, those also need to be removed... along with any code or timers used.

 

[JLou5641]

Thanks to JLou for his continued work on FizX, which is now easier to add and better than ever!

Thanks for your support, video, feedback, and all extra stuff wich work with FizX to make FP working like a newer game

 

[Zobou]

hello I just tested on 'Tree Angels' fizX version 3 to 3.2. The update is super simple and quick. This update causes a latency on my PC of 5 years with the tables rather loaded. Despite everything, given all the advantages that fizX brings, I can't see myself playing pinball in the future without it. Thank you Terry & Jlou

ps: Are you using the “Table Flipper Line” and is it supported?

 

[TerryRed]

hello I just tested on 'Tree Angels' fizX version 3 to 3.2. The update is super simple and quick. This update causes a latency on my PC of 5 years with the tables rather loaded. Despite everything, given all the advantages that fizX brings, I can't see myself playing pinball in the future without it. Thank you Terry & Jlou

ps: Are you using the “Table Flipper Line” and is it supported?

I tested FizX 3.2 on Sonic Pinball Mania on my i5 2500K PC which is 11 years old, and it ran fine on there.

I don't know what "Table Flipper Line" is... so chances are... no? :)

 

[Popotte]

@Zobou Can you load (or send via PM) your table in order to test it. I do (or redo) 9 tables with FizX3.2 without no problems with my old other I3 PC (OK, it's old EM). What is your configuration (CPU, GPU, screen)?

 

[Zobou]

@Zobou Can you load (or send via PM) your table in order to test it. I do (or redo) 9 tables with FizX3.2 without no problems with my old other I3 PC (OK, it's old EM). What is your configuration (CPU, GPU, screen)?

yes I'm sending you that, but I think I found it. There are simply balls which are constantly in contact with the post at the top of the table. which causes infinite loops.

i3-8100
8go
1050ti
ssd

 

[Zobou]

I tested FizX 3.2 on Sonic Pinball Mania on my i5 2500K PC which is 11 years old, and it ran fine on there.

I don't know what "Table Flipper Line" is... so chances are... no? :)

I always place it at the top of pinball machines but is it really useful?

 

[TerryRed]

I always place it at the top of pinball machines but is it really useful?

Ah, yes... now I know.

From the FP manual

This slider sits at the side of the machine. It should be adjusted so that the marker line sits in just behind the bottom of the lowest set of flippers. This marker is used by the camera system as some of the automated views are based on the position of the flippers

I honestly never even thought about it to be honest... but maybe I'll pay more attention to it now :)

 

[Zobou]

here is my table list being converted fizX3
if anyone has a table in this list that is converted let me know.

3angels _ok
5th element _ok
ACDC let be rock _ok
Alien Legacy _ok by terry
Apollo13Zed11 _no
Attack From Mars _ok
Avatar 2.2 _ok by georgeH
Batman 1989 _ok
Big Spender _ok
Black Knight Gold _ok
Blade Runner repi.. _ok by terry
Blue Vs Pink _ok By terry
Bob _ok
BTTF Ultimate _ok
Canada Dry alfa _ok
CFTBL 2,2 _ok by Anontel
Christmas beta _ok
Cirqus voltaire _ok by Ljazz & Rwl
Cleopatre _ok By popotte & tomaseco
Cosmic Princess _ok By Anontel
Crackind the cryptic _ok
DeadHunter Ultra _ok
DrDude _ok
dungeons & dragon _ok
Eight Ball Deluxe 300 _ok
F14 Tomcat _ok by terry
Family Guy Gold _ok
Flash Gordon Ultimate Pro _ok by GeorgeH
Funhouse _ok
futurama _ok
GostBusters _ok
ghost-train _ok
Gorgar mega 1.5 _ok
Halloween _ok by terry
Hightspeed Utilmate _progress ...
hungry dead _no
ID4 _no
Indyana Jones Fortune _ok by terry
Indiana Jones Crystal _no
Iron man ultimate _no
Iron man ultimate pro_no
Jaws _ok by terry
jungle-grils _no
junk yard _no
junkyard cats _ok by terry
jupiter 1.1 _ok
jurassic park ultimate pro _no
Kiss420 _no
Krull_gottlieb 1983 _no
Man in Black alfa-061 _ok
Master universe _???
Medieval madness _no
Metal Slug _no
Metaica VIP _no
Metalica alfa Stern _ok
Minions _no
MonsterBash _no
Mr & Mrs pac man _no
nightmare on elm ultimate _no
OldChicago _no
pabst can _no
Party Zone _no
Pirate Caribbean gold _no
PoliceForce _no
Retroflair _ok by terry
return kingkong _no
RoadGrils _no
Robocop _ok by terry
Robots invasion ultra _no
Sci-Fi _no
sonic _ok by terry
spiderman rapid load _no
Star trek stern _no
Starwars DSA _ok by terry
startrek next gen _no
Starwars _ok
Strikes & spares ultimate pro _no
T2 skynet ultimate _no
The Crypt Ultimate _no
Taxi NYC _no
The Addams Family 1.01 & 1.05 ultimate pro _ok
Transformers _no
Tron Legacy _no
War of Worlds _no
Xenon _ok by
Xmen _no

 

[TerryRed]

At some point.... I'll most likely update many Ultimate Pro tables (that were released) and to FizX and PinEvent. Same goes for more of Rom's tables (like Knight Rider) and maybe some of Polygame's tables..... eventually... some day (I have my own tables to finish as well). Even if someone did a FizX update to a table... I would most likely end up doing my own FizX and PinEvent update / mod anyways. Some would be "big" updates like....

Master universe _???

WIP - Original Table - FizX - BAM - FP - Masters of the Universe - Collector's Edition

Another addition. Battle Cat Bumpers.... which is basically Super Pops. If you hit the bumpers enough, then this is enabled. You get more score, and also get more added to your End of Ball Bonus.

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[TerryRed]

@Zobou

If you are still having issues with your PC lagging using FizX 3.2 on some tables that have captive balls resting on rubbers or walls, etc... @JLou5641 said before we can still go back to older 3.0 methods (in 3.2 code) by changing this line to false:

xBAM.Physics.AllObjectsHasGenericHit = false

However, this means that you would need to add rubber posts and rubbers bands for all rubbers like you did with FizX 3.0. This could be a good option to use for tables that have captive balls that rest on rubbers or walls all the time (which are played on older PCs).

There may be an update in the future that could resolve this.... but that will rely on future BAM updates to allow it (but there were other bugs and problems with that BAM update that aren't resolved yet).

Again.... I had no problems with my older PCs.... but some others may with slower PCs with certain tables as mentioned above.... at least for now.

 

[Popotte]

@TerryRed Could you test Ace High (or Rack a Ball). The jack7749's problem seems to be due to the balls in the apron (see pic). He have no problem with Moulin Rouge. And I don't have problem with the 3 balls even on my old PC...

 

[TerryRed]

@TerryRed Could you test Ace High (or Rack a Ball). The jack7749's problem seems to be due to the balls in the apron (see pic). He have no problem with Moulin Rouge. And I don't have problem with the 3 balls even on my old PC...

View attachment 40255

No problems here on the same older PC.

 

[JLou5641]

@Zobou , be sure the line xBAM.Physics.GenericPreHitMinBallSpeed is set to 5.

That mean all static ball will be ignored.

By the way, your CPU is too weak for this type of game. Physics is like graphics... It requiered calculation... More and better physics need more power...

Now, i recommand at least a Ryzen 5 3400...


As @TerryRed said, i have a BAM update wich is buggy ( not related to Fizx ), so not ready to release with another FizX update. I hope Rav could solved issues... Because it can increase up to 40% the performance of FizX in Multiball or with Captive ball

 

[Zobou]

Thanks for your response guys, now I can understand better. So in the end I upgrade to 3.2. adjust and rename all the pinball machines, and disable "xBAM.Physics.AllObjectsHasGenericHit = false" which ensures that all the "rubber fizX" added will still work? otherwise also change the sensitivity of the ball hit with xBAM.Physics.GenericPreHitMinBallSpeed is set to 5?

 

[TerryRed]

Thanks for your response guys, now I can understand better. So in the end I upgrade to 3.2. adjust and rename all the pinball machines, and disable "xBAM.Physics.AllObjectsHasGenericHit = false" which ensures that all the "rubber fizX" added will still work? otherwise also change the sensitivity of the ball hit with xBAM.Physics.GenericPreHitMinBallSpeed is set to 5?

"xBAM.Physics.AllObjectsHasGenericHit = false" means that all "FP Rubbers" on the table will not work normally (FizX 3.0 and older methods), so you would need to add FizX diverter rubbers and fizx rubber bands all over the table the same as you did on FizX 3.0 and before.

 

[JLou5641]

xBAM.Physics.AllObjectsHasGenericHit = false

This only affect Native FP rubber, target, and Drop Target. If you set it to false, those will not work correctly. ( to make it simple, with false, it will set the bounciness value on the current hit with the value of previous hit.. So you can have big bouncing issue ).
So you need to use same method as FizX 3.0 if you set it to false

 

[Zobou]

"xBAM.Physics.AllObjectsHasGenericHit = false" means that all "FP Rubbers" on the table will do nothing (FizX 3.0 and older methods), so you would need to add FizX diverter rubbers and fizx rubber bands all over the table the same as you did on FizX 3.0 and before.

don't forget also the xBAM.Physics.AllObjectsHasGenericPreHit = false

but in this way I was wondering if the move to 3.2 has a considerable benefit given that the work is already done. In my opinion yes at the pinball level. anyway thank you again

 

[JLou5641]

I made lot of script optimisation, and physics optimisation for flipper and PF.. Also i solved some issue on flipper.. So yes, even without using new rubber method, it have a benefit, for gamplay and perfomance in this case

 

[GeorgeH]

here is my table list being converted fizX3
if anyone has a table in this list that is converted let me know.

3angels _ok
5th element _ok
ACDC let be rock _ok
Alien Legacy _ok by terry
Apollo13Zed11 _no
Attack From Mars _ok
Avatar 2.2 _ok by georgeH
Batman 1989 _ok
Big Spender _ok
Black Knight Gold _ok
Blade Runner repi.. _ok by terry
Blue Vs Pink _ok By terry
Bob _ok
BTTF Ultimate _ok
Canada Dry alfa _ok
CFTBL 2,2 _ok by Anontel
Christmas beta _ok
Cirqus voltaire _ok by Ljazz & Rwl
Cleopatre _ok By popotte & tomaseco
Cosmic Princess _ok By Anontel
Crackind the cryptic _ok
DeadHunter Ultra _ok
DrDude _ok
dungeons & dragon _ok
Eight Ball Deluxe 300 _ok
F14 Tomcat _ok by terry
Family Guy Gold _ok
Flash Gordon Ultimate Pro _ok by GeorgeH
Funhouse _ok
futurama _ok
GostBusters _ok
ghost-train _ok
Gorgar mega 1.5 _ok
Halloween _ok by terry
Hightspeed Utilmate _progress ...
hungry dead _no
ID4 _no
Indyana Jones Fortune _ok by terry
Indiana Jones Crystal _no
Iron man ultimate _no
Iron man ultimate pro_no
Jaws _ok by terry
jungle-grils _no
junk yard _no
junkyard cats _ok by terry
jupiter 1.1 _ok
jurassic park ultimate pro _no
Kiss420 _no
Krull_gottlieb 1983 _no
Man in Black alfa-061 _ok
Master universe _???
Medieval madness _no
Metal Slug _no
Metaica VIP _no
Metalica alfa Stern _ok
Minions _no
MonsterBash _no
Mr & Mrs pac man _no
nightmare on elm ultimate _no
OldChicago _no
pabst can _no
Party Zone _no
Pirate Caribbean gold _no
PoliceForce _no
Retroflair _ok by terry
return kingkong _no
RoadGrils _no
Robocop _ok by terry
Robots invasion ultra _no
Sci-Fi _no
sonic _ok by terry
spiderman rapid load _no
Star trek stern _no
Starwars DSA _ok by terry
startrek next gen _no
Starwars _ok
Strikes & spares ultimate pro _no
T2 skynet ultimate _no
The Crypt Ultimate _no
Taxi NYC _no
The Addams Family 1.01 & 1.05 ultimate pro _ok
Transformers _no
Tron Legacy _no
War of Worlds _no
Xenon _ok by
Xmen _no

I will update these tables:

Apollo13
Attack From Mars
Funhouse
RoadGirls
The Addams Family
Transformers
hungry dead
Indiana Jones Fortune (Terry updated Crystal)
Iron man
jurassic park
Medieval madness
MonsterBash

 

[TerryRed]

Indiana Jones Fortune (Terry updated Crystal)

No...

"Fortune and Glory" is my FizX and table mod and PinEvent Lite mod release... as seen here. :)

SS - Original Table - BAM - FizX - FP - Indiana Jones - Fortune and Glory Edition (PinEvent Lite, FizX 3.3)

Indiana Jones - Fortune and Glory Edition (PinEvent Lite, FizX 3.3) Version 1.3 (Feb 2024) Original wip table build by: GLXB & Highlnder00 Ultimate Pro update by: SLAMT1LT Fortune and Glory Edition, PinEvent Lite, FizX update by: TerryRed Do...

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No one has done Crystal Skull (that table needs lots of fixes beyond physics).

 

[Popotte]

@Zobou I'll update my tables (so, not much).

 

[JLou5641]

I begun my first work on FP table...

Ghostbuster... with 3D insert, new lighting, no external ressources, FizX etc etc... Long term project

 

[GeorgeH]

No...

"Fortune and Glory" is my FizX and table mod and PinEvent Lite mod release... as seen here. :)

SS - Original Table - BAM - FizX - FP - Indiana Jones - Fortune and Glory Edition (PinEvent Lite, FizX 3.3)

Indiana Jones - Fortune and Glory Edition (PinEvent Lite, FizX 3.3) Version 1.3 (Feb 2024) Original wip table build by: GLXB & Highlnder00 Ultimate Pro update by: SLAMT1LT Fortune and Glory Edition, PinEvent Lite, FizX update by: TerryRed Do...

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No one has done Crystal Skull (that table needs lots of fixes beyond physics).

My mistake. I'll update this one:

Williams - SS - Recreation - BAM - FP - Indiana Jones (Williams, 1993) UltimatumPath of Adventure

by GeorgeH, Gimli, Glxb, Highlnder00, SLAMT1LT at 2016-09-07 Type Recreation (real pinball) Manufacturer Williams Electronic Games, Incorporated, a subsidiary of WMS Ind., Incorporated (1985-1999) Tradename Williams Date...

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